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Old 05-10-2012, 08:40 AM
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Another Example of Faith Healing.

I guess the bright side of these stories is that there are still few enough that when they do happen, they still make the national news.



Trial opens for faith-healing couple accused of murder in son's burst appendix death

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/10...#ixzz1uTgngRHH
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:45 AM
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According to Okanogan County Superior Court documents, the Swezeys belong to the Church of the First Born, which believes in faith healing. They reportedly failed to call an ambulance as their son lay dying. Instead, they asked church elders to pray for him and anoint him with olive oil in the days leading up to his death, the Wenatchee World reported Wednesday.
They followed scripture.
But also should have phoned the ambulance.
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:51 AM
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They followed scripture.
But also should have phoned the ambulance.
It is great to believe God for healing, it is greater to use the resources (doctors, medicine, and hospitals) that he has given man for relieving sickness and pain, as we pray and trust God with our lives. Otherwise, our "faith" can become child abuse, and that my friend, is in violation of Jesus own words, concerning children.
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:57 AM
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Otherwise, our "faith" can become child abuse, and that my friend, is in violation of Jesus own words, concerning children.
"My friend".....is that an indication that you are preaching at me and setting me straight???
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:04 AM
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Re: Another Example of Faith Healing.

Jesus said that a sick person needs a doctor in Matthew 9:12

Solomon said that medicine doeth good in Proverbs 17:22

Proverbs 18:9 says: “He who does not use his endeavors to heal himself is brother to him who commits suicide.”


If you are Roman Catholic or have an old King James Bible, or a 1611 King James Bible, or a Jerusalem Bible, or a New English Bible or a LXX Bible or a NRSV Bible, you have a book in the Old Testament called Sirach or Ecclesiasticus or Wisdom of Jesus the Son of Sirach.Below are some verses from chapter 38 of that book. We have read these verses to people (Roman Catholic) in hospitals or in their homes when we pray for them.

The Jews did not consider the apocriyphal books to be "Scripture" but could be used for wisdom and teaching and are found among the Dead Sea Scrolls. If you are a "1611 KJV only" person you can read and apply the apocryphal books right along with the rest of that version.


1 Honour physicians for their services,
for the Lord created them;
2 for their gift of healing comes from the Most High,
and they are rewarded by the king.
3 The skill of physicians makes them distinguished,
and in the presence of the great they are admired.
4The Lord created medicines out of the earth,
and the sensible will not despise them.
5 Was not water made sweet with a tree
in order that its power might be known?
6 And he gave skill to human beings
that he might be glorified in his marvellous works.
7 By them the physician heals and takes away pain;
8 the pharmacist makes a mixture from them.
God’s works will never be finished;
and from him health spreads over all the earth.
9 My child, when you are ill, do not delay,
but pray to the Lord, and he will heal you.
10 Give up your faults and direct your hands rightly,
and cleanse your heart from all sin.
11 Offer a sweet-smelling sacrifice, and a memorial portion of choice flour,
and pour oil on your offering, as much as you can afford.
12 Then give the physician his place, for the Lord created him;
do not let him leave you, for you need him.
13 There may come a time when recovery lies in the hands of physicians,
14 for they too pray to the Lord
that he will grant them success in diagnosis
and in healing, for the sake of preserving life.
15 A man sins in the eyes of his Maker
if he defies the physician.
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"My friend".....is that an indication that you are preaching at me and setting me straight???
No, just commenting on the thread, I agree with your comments.
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:02 AM
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They followed scripture.
But also should have phoned the ambulance.
Or at least taken him to an urgent care, anywhere.
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Or at least taken him to an urgent care, anywhere.
Of course!
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:17 AM
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Not sure it is worthy of "second degree murder", they will lose if they hold to this charge and not allow a lesser charge of maybe "neglect" or "manslaughter".
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:20 AM
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Not sure it is worthy of "second degree murder", they will lose if they hold to this charge and not allow a lesser charge of maybe "neglect" or "manslaughter".
Ya, the prosecutor is going for broke with that charge. As insanely angry as these cases make me, any semi-intelligent juror would/should realize that the parents didn't maliciously murder their kid.
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