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Old 04-11-2010, 07:52 PM
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Just Got Back From Preaching at a Trinity Church!

After being called on to deliver the message today at my home Church, (Deeper Life Church, Lancaster, OH) I had to hustle from Lancaster down to Wellston to sing and minister the Word at Pentecostal Holiness House of Prayer , a Trinitarian Pentecostal Church. And no, I didn't come out swinging with Acts 2:38. I preached the same message I had at Deeper Life, about how to light the fire of revival. The people were very welcoming and supportive, and we had a glorious time in the Lord. And yes, I'm still a three-stepper hardliner, but if we only stay within our little fishbowl, we'll soon run out of oxygen.
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:07 PM
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After being called on to deliver the message today at my home Church, (Deeper Life Church, Lancaster, OH) I had to hustle from Lancaster down to Wellston to sing and minister the Word at Pentecostal Holiness House of Prayer , a Trinitarian Pentecostal Church. And no, I didn't come out swinging with Acts 2:38. I preached the same message I had at Deeper Life, about how to light the fire of revival. The people were very welcoming and supportive, and we had a glorious time in the Lord. And yes, I'm still a three-stepper hardliner, but if we only stay within our little fishbowl, we'll soon run out of oxygen.

You had a "glorious time in the Lord"?? With trinitarians? How is that possible? You don't think they're actually saved, do you?
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You had a "glorious time in the Lord"?? With trinitarians? How is that possible? You don't think they're actually saved, do you?
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You had a "glorious time in the Lord"?? With trinitarians? How is that possible? You don't think they're actually saved, do you?
It's God's place to say who is saved and who isn't, not mine. And yes, a glorious time in the Lord. NOW, did you ever see the debate between DK Bernard and Gene Cook? It was Cook who said Bernard was serving a "false Jesus" and Bernard who said they both worship the same God, but have a different understanding of His Nature. So just who is having problems thinking someone with a different doctrine is saved?
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It's God's place to say who is saved and who isn't, not mine. And yes, a glorious time in the Lord. NOW, did you ever see the debate between DK Bernard and Gene Cook? It was Cook who said Bernard was serving a "false Jesus" and Bernard who said they both worship the same God, but have a different understanding of His Nature. So just who is having problems thinking someone with a different doctrine is saved?
Come on! This is the kind of stuff I just posted about on page 12 of the Biblical response to Acts 2:38 thread. http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=112

We want to say if someone hasn't spoken in tongues, their damned.

If they haven't been baptized in Jesus, their damned.

But when the rubber meets the road, when we really have the chance to set them straight on their error, to save thier soul, then "we're not to judge."

Either they are truly lost OR..................................
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Come on! This is the kind of stuff I just posted about on page 12 of the Biblical response to Acts 2:38 thread.

We want to say if someone hasn't spoken in tongues, their damned.

If they haven't been baptized in Jesus, their damned.

But when the rubber meets the road, when we really have the chance to set them straight on their error, to save thier soul, then "we're not to judge."

Either they are truly lost OR..................................

I know, Jason. It's a complete wimp-out. I barked about this in the "Cross-Alone-Saves" thread and finally got one person to say I was going to hell....well, sorta. He wouldn't actually come right out and say it.

And my point always is...if I'm not going to hell because I haven't spoken in tongues, they why do ya'll want me to speak in tongues?
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I know, Jason. It's a complete wimp-out. I barked about this in the "Cross-Alone-Saves" thread and finally got one person to say I was going to hell....well, sorta. He wouldn't actually come right out and say it.

And my point always is...if I'm not going to hell because I haven't spoken in tongues, they why do ya'll want me to speak in tongues?
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Come on! This is the kind of stuff I just posted about on page 12 of the Biblical response to Acts 2:38 thread. http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=112

We want to say if someone hasn't spoken in tongues, their damned.

If they haven't been baptized in Jesus, their damned.

But when the rubber meets the road, when we really have the chance to set them straight on their error, to save thier soul, then "we're not to judge."

Either they are truly lost OR..................................
Nice plug for your thread, but who is "we"? I have never stated any of the cartoonish statements you've listed above.
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Nice plug for your thread, but who is "we"? I have never stated any of the cartoonish statements you've listed above.
Perhaps YOU never have, but many in this OP movement (and UPC -are you licenced UPC?) certainly do.

And if those statements are "cartoonish" do you then teach that:
1)Speaking in tongues is NOT necessary for salvation?

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2)Baptism in Jesus Name is NOT necessary for salvation?

"Cartoonish" or not, it is black and white. Either those things are absolutely 100% necessary for an individual to be saved or there not. Will you please take a stand one way or another, I fear if you stay on the fence to long, it will collapse.
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