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06-26-2009, 01:10 AM
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More On Kid Preachers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoDsA...layer_embedded
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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06-26-2009, 06:57 AM
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Re: More On Kid Preachers
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoDsA...layer_embedded
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How pitiful and pathetic. The Father hoping to see 86 million a year out of his "product". Child Preachers are not impossible. But remember this. Preaching a sermon can be far, far removed from being a disciple of Yeshua.
They ordained this child because he could preach a sermon. How shameful. How evil of them.
When my brother was 14 years old he could preach to hundreds of people at our Church. Yet he could not witness to people he went to school with.
By the time the social swirl of the young people at Church coupled with a summer out on the "evangelistic circuit" with a famous Pentecostal Preacher got done with him his faith was destroyed. Backslid at 16.
Let a young person grow in Christ. Let them have time to get the truth in them. Let them be consistent in prayer and witnessing. Preaching can be done many places besides a Church building.
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06-26-2009, 07:10 AM
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Re: More On Kid Preachers
The old sing songy pentecostal preachin is very easily mimicked for an actor like this young man. No great shock that some folks choose to capitalize on it.
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06-26-2009, 07:28 AM
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Re: More On Kid Preachers
The "tongues" has my attention. We've seen it being "used/performed" by those like in the video told of.....the young red headed boy that was shown later counting his $$$ on the bed, and his performances we're "full of tongues". I know, I know, the devil has an imitation for everything as they say... But what I'm getting at is, is 'the tongues" of man/flesh made, or of the devil, (or of God?-highly unlikely in this instance) And if the tongues are in fact "fleshly tongue taliking", how much of that "fleshly tongue talking" actually is taking place in the "church realm"? I know...try the spirits....
I'm not convinced all the "tongues and interpretations" I personally hear, are God speaking.... Tho, I'm not about to say they are not for that may be considered blasphemy against the Spirit, and I DON'T wanna go there.
.... another thread I suppose...
I'm wondering where the kid(& his parents) will be in 10-20 years.
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06-26-2009, 08:38 AM
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Re: More On Kid Preachers
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Phl 3:19 Whose end [is] destruction, whose God [is their] belly, and [whose] glory [is] in their shame, who mind earthly things.)
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We live in a world where peoples god is what meets their desires.
Cute kids.
Fine orations.
Feel good "God wants to see you prosper" based ministries.
And, as people will quickly pay for entry to an amusement park, they will also not delay to pay good money to feed their bellies with their own desires when it is wrapped up in the package of religion.
Charlatans cannot operate without non thinking & dull minded people.
In all of it... the children are the ones that are being taken advantage of. Everyone else is getting what they wanted.
And... in the end...the childs view of church, God & religion will be so skewed and destroyed by what he has seen and been a part of that very little outside a miracle from God will be able to cure them of the disenchantment they received in return for the millions their parents were able to bilk out of their stardom.
And... I don't believe for one moment that there is a trust fund for those kids anywhere. But... even if there were one... it won't be enough to pay for the irreparable damage they are doing by using this boy as a tool for their own monetary gain.
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06-26-2009, 08:41 AM
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Re: More On Kid Preachers
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Originally Posted by shag
The "tongues" has my attention. We've seen it being "used/performed" by those like in the video told of.....the young red headed boy that was shown later counting his $$$ on the bed, and his performances we're "full of tongues". I know, I know, the devil has an imitation for everything as they say... But what I'm getting at is, is 'the tongues" of man/flesh made, or of the devil, (or of God?-highly unlikely in this instance) And if the tongues are in fact "fleshly tongue taliking", how much of that "fleshly tongue talking" actually is taking place in the "church realm"? I know...try the spirits....
I'm not convinced all the "tongues and interpretations" I personally hear, are God speaking.... Tho, I'm not about to say they are not for that may be considered blasphemy against the Spirit, and I DON'T wanna go there.
.... another thread I suppose...
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Yep... not all that speaks in tongues is of God. And that goes far beyond this young man and the video.
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06-26-2009, 06:03 PM
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Re: More On Kid Preachers
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Originally Posted by shag
The "tongues" has my attention. We've seen it being "used/performed" by those like in the video told of.....the young red headed boy that was shown later counting his $$$ on the bed, and his performances we're "full of tongues". I know, I know, the devil has an imitation for everything as they say... But what I'm getting at is, is 'the tongues" of man/flesh made, or of the devil, (or of God?-highly unlikely in this instance) And if the tongues are in fact "fleshly tongue taliking", how much of that "fleshly tongue talking" actually is taking place in the "church realm"? I know...try the spirits....
I'm not convinced all the "tongues and interpretations" I personally hear, are God speaking.... Tho, I'm not about to say they are not for that may be considered blasphemy against the Spirit, and I DON'T wanna go there.
.... another thread I suppose...
I'm wondering where the kid(& his parents) will be in 10-20 years.
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I am wondering where the kid and his parents are NOW... I am not impressed in the least.
Tongues... what really does it mean, or should it mean, when we hear tongues uttered? Often it is with great emphasis - even blasted through the microphone.
Do you value a statement more highly when it contains an explosive exclamation in tongues? Is it then spoken with greater credibility or veracity?
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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06-27-2009, 02:18 PM
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Re: More On Kid Preachers
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Originally Posted by shag
The "tongues" has my attention. We've seen it being "used/performed" by those like in the video told of.....the young red headed boy that was shown later counting his $$$ on the bed, and his performances we're "full of tongues". I know, I know, the devil has an imitation for everything as they say... But what I'm getting at is, is 'the tongues" of man/flesh made, or of the devil, (or of God?-highly unlikely in this instance) And if the tongues are in fact "fleshly tongue taliking", how much of that "fleshly tongue talking" actually is taking place in the "church realm"? I know...try the spirits....
I'm not convinced all the "tongues and interpretations" I personally hear, are God speaking.... Tho, I'm not about to say they are not for that may be considered blasphemy against the Spirit, and I DON'T wanna go there.
.... another thread I suppose...
I'm wondering where the kid(& his parents) will be in 10-20 years.
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Your referring to Marjoe Gortner
His video is broken up on Youtube if you ever wanna see it.
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06-27-2009, 04:05 PM
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Re: More On Kid Preachers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bnyN...eature=related
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06-26-2009, 06:37 PM
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Re: More On Kid Preachers
lord help us
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