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Old 05-04-2009, 03:57 PM
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Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations

According to MicroTrends by Mark J. Penn

EVERY denomination that has espoused Women Pastors has had a drastic and long term DROP in membership.


I Tim 2:11-15

11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety

I Cor 14:35

And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church


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Old 05-04-2009, 04:04 PM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations

They don't keep quiet in church all that shouting and stuff so why not let them preach they don't obey I COR 14:35.. So just let them preach...
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Old 05-04-2009, 04:13 PM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations

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They don't keep quiet in church all that shouting and stuff so why not let them preach they don't obey I COR 14:35.. So just let them preach...
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EVERY denomination that has espoused Women Pastors has had a drastic and long term DROP in membership.

Since the Bible doesn't seem to carry any weight, perhaps the reason quoted above is sufficient.

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Old 05-04-2009, 04:13 PM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations

Our church has grown and grown and grown...thank God for any man or woman that will reach souls.

Whoever said that did not study early Pentecostal history or early history of foreign Missions...
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:13 AM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations

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Our church has grown and grown and grown...thank God for any man or woman that will reach souls.

Whoever said that did not study early Pentecostal history or early history of foreign Missions...
Could you elaborate?
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Old 05-04-2009, 04:15 PM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations

I don't believe it has anything to do with women preaching. I think it's because they can watch TV or use the internet instead of going to church.
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Old 05-04-2009, 04:36 PM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations

I don't know where that guy got his info, but many churches standing today were started by women preachers and pastors. I know of a church that ran 500 while a woman was pastor. Today, it runs about 150 underneath the same male pastor that took over that church after her death several years ago.

My grandma is Methodist and has had a woman pastor for several years, even though it's been different pastors. Her church has also grown.
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:38 PM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations

I don't believe in woman pastors but this verse has nothing to do with the topic.

You have to understand the context of the time and culture. Women were not allowed to learn at all. The Christian church changed that.

The setting is "learning", while in church during teaching they were not to speak.

From what I have heard before, churches were segregated with men on one side and women on the other. Women were not the loud boisterous types we have come to all known and love today :-)

Rather they were the kind that kept to themselves and deferred to the husband.

And so at church they were asking their husbands questions and disrupting the lesson. Paul is saying that they should wait and ask at home.

1Ti 2:10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection

1Co 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Co 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:56 PM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations

The Assemblies of God has ordained women pastors for many decades. I don't think it has suffered, as a result. (Not in membership numbers, anyway. )
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Old 05-04-2009, 10:12 PM
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Women can minister but not teach in a setting over men in which they are acting over heads of homes ala church setting. They can teach 60% of the population but not over men.
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