Why wasn't it necessary for the thief on the cross to be baptized?

[Kutless]

A question came up in class last night. I haven't heard it asked for some time.

Why wasn't it necessary for the thief on the cross to be baptized?

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Kutless

A question came up in class last night. I haven't heard it asked for some time.

Why wasn't it necessary for the thief on the cross to be baptized?

Jesus did not give the intructions to make disciples and to baptize them, till AFTER his death burial and resurection.

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

Jesus did not give the intructions to make disciples and to baptize them, till AFTER his death burial and resurection.

Thanks Free. This is such a simple answer. And for someone to have the knowledge of the cross scenario but then not be able to answer this floors me.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

Jesus did not give the intructions to make disciples and to baptize them, till AFTER his death burial and resurection.

And the New Covenant wasn't activated until the death of the testator -Jesus Christ.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

And the New Covenant wasn't activated until the death of the testator -Jesus Christ.

Jesus died before the two thieves.

They broke their legs, and not his, because he was already dead.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

Jesus died before the two thieves.

They broke their legs, and not his, because he was already dead.

But were the terms of the covenant set at that point?

What is your answer to Kutless' question, oh mighty and learned one?

[OGIA]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

Jesus died before the two thieves.

They broke their legs, and not his, because he was already dead.

I had that one thrown at me a couple of years ago while having this same discussion.

I was like " ..........you're right!"

[Neck]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

Jesus died before the two thieves.

They broke their legs, and not his, because he was already dead.

The day of Pentecost was not fully come. It took the death and the resurrection of Jesus. He needed to assend to heaven.

As he told Mary at the tomb.

Do not touch me I have not yet assended.

Also he was to appear to them on the day of Pentecost.

Then Peter preached....

[ILG]

Are there more requirements for salvation in the NT than in the Old? Thief saved by faith in the OT, but if he had been crucified a few months later and cried to God in the same way God would have said "Too bad. You should have been crucified last year when I let people like you into heaven!" This doesn't make any sense.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

And the New Covenant wasn't activated until the death of the testator -Jesus Christ.

Until the day of Pentecost was fully come...