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Old 02-24-2011, 02:10 PM
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You mean people like Abraham could get to heaven back then without believing on Christ?
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Because a Christian is a follower of Christ and the Christ had not yet come.
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You mean people like Abraham could get to heaven back then without believing on Christ?
You mean Abraham was a Christian?
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You mean Abraham was a Christian?
Of course he was!
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Of course he was!
Really? The term Christian means a disciple or follower of Christ's teachings. He hadn't heard those teachings so how can he be one? This also includes baptism by a disciple of Christ..Was Abraham baptized by a disciple of Christ or by Christ Himself?
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Really? The term Christian means a disciple or follower of Christ's teachings. He hadn't heard those teachings so how can he be one? This also includes baptism by a disciple of Christ..Was Abraham baptized by a disciple of Christ or by Christ Himself?
But Abraham saw the day of Christ and was glad!
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But Abraham saw the day of Christ and was glad!
meaning what? He foresaw it? He was still alive when Christ came? He was dead and in heaven and some how saw it? How does that make Abraham a Christian?
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meaning what? He foresaw it? He was still alive when Christ came? He was dead and in heaven and some how saw it? How does that make Abraham a Christian?
The term Christian was apply to believers in Christ at Antioch. Abraham was a Jew who believed in the promise of Messiah, just like most Jews. That however didn't make him a Christian as most Jews believed in Messiah but didn't accept Christ as that Messiah.


Abraham was "a friend of God" and called the father of faith. Faith in the living God to declare righteous apart from works.
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meaning what? He foresaw it? He was still alive when Christ came? He was dead and in heaven and some how saw it? How does that make Abraham a Christian?
You tell me what makes a Christian? I always thought it was belief.
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