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Old 09-20-2007, 03:08 PM
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Would Heaven be more important to us if...

We weren't so blessed here on Earth?

I understand that "not" everybody shares the same "blessings" considering politics and real persecution in other countries of this Earth..

Some might say what do you mean blessed?

Family, Homes, Creature Comforts, AFF, Church, Golfing, Hunting, Fishing, Pastoring, Youth Nights, and so on...We have so much to live for that Heaven is an after thought...

Sure we all say we want Heaven to be our home and yet we fight hard to stay here on Earth..Why?

Depending on your current condition would Heaven be more important or Less?

The Early Church had little and suffered great persecution so they longed for Christ's Return...and a Promise of a Better Place...

but it seems at times folks aren't quite "ready" for heaven..is this Bad or Okay??
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:10 PM
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We weren't so blessed here on Earth?

I understand that "not" everybody shares the same "blessings" considering politics and real persecution in other countries of this Earth..

Some might say what do you mean blessed?

Family, Homes, Creature Comforts, AFF, Church, We have so much to live for that Heaven is an after thought...

Sure we all say we want Heaven to be our home and yet we fight hard to stay here on Earth..Why?

Depending on your current condition would Heaven be more important or Less?

The Early Church had little and suffered great persecution so they longed for Christ's Return...and a Promise of a Better Place...

but it seems at times folks aren't quite "ready" for heaven..is this Bad or Okay??
I think we all want to go to heaven, but no one wants to sign up today. I don't know if that's bad or good. If we were in a persecuted country, I'm sure we would all feel differently.
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:15 PM
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I think we all want to go to heaven, but no one wants to sign up today. I don't know if that's bad or good. If we were in a persecuted country, I'm sure we would all feel differently.
It seems conditional on our circumstance... is it wrong or right..or does it matter... many preach about the rapture but are they ready for it... (not salvational) but really ready to give this up? or they prefer the rapture over dying..

I could see this.. but does that mean my desire to make is diminished??
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:17 PM
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Honestly, I don't want to go to Heaven... I just don't want to go to hell. If I had my way I would just stay here... that is part of my problem. lol. I feel like I walked into a restaurant and was presented with a bill and I haven't even eaten yet.

But I guess that kind of proves your point. I am content, therefore I am not "hoping" for a better life in the next place.
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:18 PM
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Honestly, I don't want to go to Heaven... I just don't want to go to hell. If I had my way I would just stay here... that is part of my problem. lol. I feel like I walked into a restaurant and was presented with a bill and I haven't even eaten yet.
Wow....SHD...
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:19 PM
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I added another line... I think that is why nobody gets me...
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:22 PM
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I added another line... I think that is why nobody gets me...
Thanks for being honest.

See my new thread on "Indian Powerhouse". Our mentality is so different in America!
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:24 PM
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We weren't so blessed here on Earth?

I understand that "not" everybody shares the same "blessings" considering politics and real persecution in other countries of this Earth..

Some might say what do you mean blessed?

Family, Homes, Creature Comforts, AFF, Church, Golfing, Hunting, Fishing, Pastoring, Youth Nights, and so on...We have so much to live for that Heaven is an after thought...

Sure we all say we want Heaven to be our home and yet we fight hard to stay here on Earth..Why?

Depending on your current condition would Heaven be more important or Less?

The Early Church had little and suffered great persecution so they longed for Christ's Return...and a Promise of a Better Place...

but it seems at times folks aren't quite "ready" for heaven..is this Bad or Okay??
Hmmmmm. Good points. I have several suggestions:

Family - We'll let you keep your family. They probably already wish they could go to heaven.
Homes - You can sign your home over to me anytime. No sense you losing out on heaven over materialism.
AFF - Maybe Admin can remove your account to remove this distraction from your life.
Church - Start stepping on toes by preaching "tough" Con messages. After the 1st week of complaints, you'll wish you could go to heaven.
Golfing - Sell your golf clubs on eBay, it'll give you more time to pray and fast.
Hunting - Sell your guns and gear, it'll give you more "God" time.
Fishing - Sell your reels and boat, it'll give you more "God" time.
Pastoring - Start increasing your number of marriage counselling sessions; after a few months you'll wish you could go to heaven.
Youth Nights - Make your youth sing old hymnals, they'll wish they could go to heaven. After they butcher the classics enough, eventually you'll wish you could go to heaven too.

I'm not saying I have all the answers, but these suggestions might get you started in the right direction.
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:26 PM
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Thanks for being honest.

See my new thread on "Indian Powerhouse". Our mentality is so different in America!
I've seen that perspective too... I spent 6 weeks straight in India two or three years ago and 2 weeks straight in the Philippines this year, so I do understand people needing that hope. I also understand that our strongest "Apostolic" generation came through the depression and WWII so they were looking for hope as well.
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:28 PM
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Hmmmmm. Good points. I have several suggestions:

Family - We'll let you keep your family. They probably already wish they could go to heaven.
Homes - You can sign your home over to me anytime. No sense you losing out on heaven over materialism.
AFF - Maybe Admin can remove your account to remove this distraction from your life.
Church - Start stepping on toes by preaching "tough" Con messages. After the 1st week of complaints, you'll wish you could go to heaven.
Golfing - Sell your golf clubs on eBay, it'll give you more time to pray and fast.
Hunting - Sell your guns and gear, it'll give you more "God" time.
Fishing - Sell your reels and boat, it'll give you more "God" time.
Pastoring - Start increasing your number of marriage counselling sessions; after a few months you'll wish you could go to heaven.
Youth Nights - Make your youth sing old hymnals, they'll wish they could go to heaven. After they butcher the classics enough, eventually you'll wish you could go to heaven too.

I'm not saying I have all the answers, but these suggestions might get you started in the right direction.

Some people have all the answers...
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