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Old 06-07-2018, 05:55 PM
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Wounds That Never Heal

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It was the timing of his sermon that made it really interesting. Hard to believe it has been 23 years. A few years ago I wondered where he was at and with the help of Mr. Google found this;

http://www.tabernaclepraise.org/about-top/
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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Good to see he hasn't abandoned oneness and the new birth.

http://www.tabernaclepraise.org/faith/
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:16 PM
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Good to see he hasn't abandoned oneness and the new birth.

http://www.tabernaclepraise.org/faith/
What is that supposed to mean?
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What is that supposed to mean?
I take it in reference to the site on CC1 post that said "Tabernacle of Praise is literally a “come as you are” environment. From the very casual to business casual attire, you will feel right at home."

NDavid can correct me if I'm wrong but I believe he's saying it's not a holiness church, but he still hasn't abandoned the oneness and the New Birth message.
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I take it in reference to the site on CC1 post that said "Tabernacle of Praise is literally a “come as you are” environment. From the very casual to business casual attire, you will feel right at home."

NDavid can correct me if I'm wrong but I believe he's saying it's not a holiness church, but he still hasn't abandoned the oneness and the New Birth message.
DF has facial hair!

By the way does anybody know how old he is? I am assuming in his 70's now based on how old he looks in the 1995 BOTT video.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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I take it in reference to the site on CC1 post that said "Tabernacle of Praise is literally a “come as you are” environment. From the very casual to business casual attire, you will feel right at home."

NDavid can correct me if I'm wrong but I believe he's saying it's not a holiness church, but he still hasn't abandoned the oneness and the New Birth message.
I didn't read the "come as you are" statement. I did see the pictures of both Pastors and their wives.

My comment was just that in most cases when people leave the organization, at some point they also leave the doctrine.

Christ Life Church here is an example. It was founded by an ex-UPC Pastor, who kept oneness and new birth, but didn't keep dress standards. Decades later, it's merged with a trinitarian, sinner's prayer church.

I liked David Fuller. I've watched the message I posted above several times over the years. It was, and is, an incredible message that people need to hear. So, I'm just glad that he's kept the oneness and new birth doctrine.
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DF has facial hair!

By the way does anybody know how old he is? I am assuming in his 70's now based on how old he looks in the 1995 BOTT video.
He has to be in his 70s by now.

Thanks for posting the link to the church he Pastors. David goes verse by verse through Galatians and Romans in a couple of them. There's also one going through the Search for Truth Bible Study.

http://www.tabernaclepraise.org/podcasts/
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It is hard for me to listen to him, due to the carnage he left behind.
And due to the way he ignored it and continued on with his life.
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It is hard for me to listen to him, due to the carnage he left behind.
And due to the way he ignored it and continued on with his life.
Carnage?
What carnage?
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