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Marketing Jesus?
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12-24-2016, 08:06 PM
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12-24-2016, 09:20 PM
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Starbucks in churches, is bad.
But having a Xmas tree in a Church is absolutely blasphemous! 
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12-26-2016, 08:12 AM
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Re: Marketing Jesus?
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I am determined to stay as far away from this kind if junk as I possibly can. Sadly, I know of a UPC church of about 150 that just spent 18 THOUSAND on new stage lighting.
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12-26-2016, 10:28 AM
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I am determined to stay as far away from this kind if junk as I possibly can. Sadly, I know of a UPC church of about 150 that just spent 18 THOUSAND on new stage lighting.
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How much does sound, and video equipment cost?
Dr D James Kennedy had a reverb on his mic when he preached.
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12-26-2016, 10:30 AM
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I am determined to stay as far away from this kind if junk as I possibly can. Sadly, I know of a UPC church of about 150 that just spent 18 THOUSAND on new stage lighting.
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A bit of an overkill. Having purchased and installed audio/visual for a few churches, I know it can be expensive, but good grief.
The church definitely wasn't a good steward of that $18,000.
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12-26-2016, 10:33 AM
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Re: Marketing Jesus?
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A bit of an overkill. Having purchased and installed audio/visual for a few churches, I know it can be expensive, but good grief.
The church definitely wasn't a good steward of that $18,000.
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But how much should it of cost?
How big is the building?
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12-26-2016, 11:18 AM
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But how much should it of cost?
How big is the building?
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It's not so much about how big the building, but how big is the stage and for what are the using the lighting? A church of 150 likely doesn't have a massive stage, so it's just complete overkill and not clearly thinking through the need and their use.
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12-26-2016, 11:22 AM
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Re: Marketing Jesus?
Normal stage lighting for a church -- no gobos (images), FX or moving heads -- shouldn't be more than $5,000 at most. And that's LED color-changing lights with the control board.
The Pentecostals in Alexandria have a massive lighting system. Theirs likely cost around $18-$20K or more.
That's a church of a couple thousand. This church was said to be 150? I don't get it.
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12-26-2016, 06:11 PM
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Normal stage lighting for a church -- no gobos (images), FX or moving heads -- shouldn't be more than $5,000 at most. And that's LED color-changing lights with the control board.
The Pentecostals in Alexandria have a massive lighting system. Theirs likely cost around $18-$20K or more.
That's a church of a couple thousand. This church was said to be 150? I don't get it.
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Amen, thank you for the answer. 
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