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Old 10-09-2016, 06:31 AM
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Great Quote About The Decline of America

The quote was by Henning Webb Prentis, president of the Armstrong Cork Company and former president of the National Association of Manufacturers, in a February 1943 address entitled "The Cult of Competency" delivered at a Mid-Year Convocation of the General Alumni Society of the University of Pennsylvania.

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"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:"

"From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."
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Old 10-09-2016, 09:51 AM
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Re: Great Quote About The Decline of America

fairly prescient coming from a guy in the abundance stage, huh? Funny he likens the sequence to Democracy, rather than Empire, imo; the sequence seems to mirror stages of Empire. Also i note that he conflates "countries" with "nations," but that's nothing new.

Ah, guess this guy said it first--maybe. Mr Prentis does get a nod at the bottom tho.
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Old 10-09-2016, 09:51 PM
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http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf

The Fate Of Empires By Sir John Glubb.

The Age of Pioneers

This period is marked by the protagonist generation preparing the foundations of the new empire. This pioneering generation are considered as hardworking, daring innovative and ambitious. This generation were also the underdogs who were never considered by the then pre-existing world power as relevant in the scheme of affairs. The pioneering American immigrants were looked down upon by the British, the Arabs were relegated as backward by the Persians and Romans until the advent of a unifying religion in the form of Islam.

The Age of Conquest

According to Glubb, Conquest may or may not be Military in definition alone. The Islamic Caliphate grew by Military conquest so also was the case of the Mongols. The Roman conquest was a combination of both Military and high level diplomacy borrowed from the Greek model. The British Empire relied on commerce alongside Military expeditions while that of the United States was a conquest of a whole continent by a few brave and hardy immigrants.

The Age of Commerce

Closely following the Age of Conquest is that of Commerce. The advantages of a large extensive land mass territory opens up any new Nation to natural resources locate there within and also allows for a large economic bloc. The splinter societies and realms that existed prior to the expansion of the Roman Empire were open to a larger market with little or no trade barriers. The Roman empire stretching from Syria to Britain was much an economic bloc.

The Age of Intellect

With a booming economy , competition is natural to follow and as such technological innovations and development begin to take shape.
This is age also sees more technology transfer to the Military thereby consolidating power for the central administrative body of the Empire.

The Age of Affluence

This age marks the period of an improved standard of living for citizens within the realm of the Empire. Unfortunately, this leads to a widening gap between the rich and the poor. An elitist society then emerges within the Empire which so happens to control vast resources of the empire.

The Age of Decadence

The last and final stage of all Empires is marked by a lowering of moral virtues and principles usually championed by the super affluent group and the middle-class. Their show of wealth and conspicuous consumption lifestyles will natural lead to an uprising by the poorer sections of society to revolt.
It is pertinent to state that most Empires are destroyed from within. A sort of implosion occurs usually instigated by the less privileged members of that society.

The last stage of the empire are usually marked by the following social upheavals:
Society moral standards are greatly lowered
A large and undisciplined Army
Glorification of celebrities
Economic meltdown brought about by a devaluation of the currency.

The hallmarks of the above were seen in the declining phase of the Roman Empire. The Military was large undisciplined and fragmented, the Roman elites were more interested in attending sex 0rgies and gladiator games where gladiator fighters were paid vast sums of money. The last days of roman also saw economic meltdown since the ruling elites spent so much of the Empires resources maintaining a huge standing army coupled with investments in public infrastructure such as temples, coliseums, etc. The Roman denarii was originally based on Silver but with years of inflation, the coins were reduced to mere silver coated copper coins which had the silver wear out within days of minting.

John Glubb was able to draw striking similarities of past World Powers such as the average lifespan (approximately 250 years or Ten generations; given that every generation last for 25 years).

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Re: Great Quote About The Decline of America

Not sure the dates for the Roman Empire are correct? Also, I wonder if he spoke about the Byzantine Empire?

The Ottoman's held on up to early 20th century (a mere shell of their former glory, but still zombies don't die easily).
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This goes back to Plato's Republic, Book VIII.
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This goes back to Plato's Republic, Book VIII.
It's all that Phrygian music, I tell ya...
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It's all that Phrygian music, I tell ya...
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fairly prescient coming from a guy in the abundance stage, huh? Funny he likens the sequence to Democracy, rather than Empire, imo; the sequence seems to mirror stages of Empire. Also i note that he conflates "countries" with "nations," but that's nothing new.

Ah, guess this guy said it first--maybe. Mr Prentis does get a nod at the bottom tho.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexan...d_Woodhouselee
Just thinking about the decline of America gives you a shiver up your leg, doesn't it?
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Just thinking about the decline of America gives you a shiver up your leg, doesn't it?
hmm. it represents a nation that i don't identify with, Z. It represents a country that comprises several nations, even as it pretends to be "a nation," like every other country does, i guess. And chiefly, to me, it represents a resurrected Roman Empire, more or less, one that has obviously become global, which i can read about in the Revelation. But it also represents the land--Canada and Mexico are also "America" in this sense--so i guess it depends upon which definition you mean.

For the record i love America. Even the country, and the Empire it represents, have done immeasurable good for the world, entire populations elevated, amazing and frankly miraculous evolution in human advancement manifested.
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Just thinking about the decline of America gives you a shiver up your leg, doesn't it?
Decline of the United States is just the by product of her absolute disregard of the Word of God. Simple, make God your enemy, and the outcome is inevitable.
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