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Old 11-22-2015, 06:43 PM
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Russia accuses America of helping isis.

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Re: Russia accuses America of helping isis.

Drudge Report.

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Old 11-22-2015, 08:54 PM
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It's obvious obama's policies are helping isis. isis isn't the only muslim extremists obama is helping or has helped. He helped the muslim brotherhood, and even has a few of them in his administration.

When the President speaks out against Republicans and Christians more forcibly than the muslim terrorists, and when he's demanding we allow Syrian muslims in the US...but NOT Christians from Syria and other middle eastern countries.... Yes, he's helping isis.
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Old 11-22-2015, 10:00 PM
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Re: Russia accuses America of helping isis.

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It's obvious obama's policies are helping isis. isis isn't the only muslim extremists obama is helping or has helped. He helped the muslim brotherhood, and even has a few of them in his administration.

When the President speaks out against Republicans and Christians more forcibly than the muslim terrorists, and when he's demanding we allow Syrian muslims in the US...but NOT Christians from Syria and other middle eastern countries.... Yes, he's helping isis.
1) He never said that we should not help Christians from Syria he said that their religion shouldn't play a role in the decision to help them.

2) Which Obama policy is designed to help ISIS?

3) Who in the Obama Administration is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood?

4) Didn't his policies help to make sure they lost power in Egypt, after the people elected them to power in Egypt and they began to fall on their extremist ways?

5) When did Obama speak AGAINST Christians?
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Re: Russia accuses America of helping isis.

I had accused our CIA being somehow connected to ISIS or Daesh, but I don't believe that any more.
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Re: Russia accuses America of helping isis.

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1) He never said that we should not help Christians from Syria he said that their religion shouldn't play a role in the decision to help them.

He is trying to only bring in Muslims refugees.
2) Which Obama policy is designed to help ISIS?

The limited range of military targets
3) Who in the Obama Administration is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood?

They do not need to be members, being a sympathizer is enough
4) Didn't his policies help to make sure they lost power in Egypt, after the people elected them to power in Egypt and they began to fall on their extremist ways?

They lost power in Egypt because the Egyptian Military step in
5) When did Obama speak AGAINST Christians?
He has spoken may things against Christians, you must have missed a lot of his speeches or perhaps you have selective hearing.
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Old 11-23-2015, 08:27 AM
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1) He never said that we should not help Christians from Syria he said that their religion shouldn't play a role in the decision to help them.
Yeah, unfortunately his policy is disparate discrimination against Christians. While his intent may be well and good, the impact is the opposite

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/21...ncle-sam-boot/

http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...53-christians/

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2) Which Obama policy is designed to help ISIS?
Let's start with arming the Sunnis in Syria. Funneling arms through Libya without Congressional consent or knowledge. The same Sunnis who comprise isis. Or we could point out the warnings he's ordered be given 45 minutes before bombing isis fuel tankers. Or that 75% of targets are blocked.

http://www.infowars.com/white-house-...g-oil-tankers/

http://www.christiantoday.com/articl...ians/71276.htm

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Who in the Obama Administration is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood?
"According to the..Investigative Project, "the six named people include:..Arif Alikhan, assistant secretary of Homeland Security for policy development; Mohammed Elibiary, a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council;..Rashad Hussain, the U.S. special envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference;Salam al-Marayati, co-founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC); Imam Mohamed Magid, president of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA); and Eboo Patel, a member of President Obama's Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships."

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/v...ory.asp?id=844

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4) Didn't his policies help to make sure they lost power in Egypt, after the people elected them to power in Egypt and they began to fall on their extremist ways?
Yeeeeahhhhh...no. PSD-11 (Presidential Directive) "outlines why the administration has chosen the..Muslim Brotherhood, which last year was labeled a terrorist organization by the governments of Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates as a key vehicle of U.S. backing for so-called political reform in the Middle East."

Remember, OBAMA'S choice in Egypt was Muslim Brotherhood's Mohamed Morsi. He was the one obama chose and put in power after the Egyptian Spring overthrew Mubarak. The Egyptians staged a coup to remove Morsi and lists the Brotherhood as a terrorist group.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/20...secr/?page=all

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5) When did Obama speak AGAINST Christians?
"And it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

"We affirm that we cherish our religious freedom and are profoundly respectful of religious traditions," he insisted during..a dramatic speech at a LGTB fundraiser in New York City on Sunday night, praising the progress made on gay rights under his administration. "But we also have to say clearly that our religious freedom doesn't grant us the freedom to deny our fellow Americans their constitutional rights."

He routinely criticizes any Christian who dares disagree with his policies -- calling them less than Christian during an Easter speech. He's also equated Christianity with isis, in a speech which failed to condemn isis and other muslim atrocities, but reminding the audience of the crusades which were "done in the name of Christ."
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