Zechariah 13:6 - Proof of Jesus in OT Prophecy?

[Pneuman]

For your consideration, from the KJV:

"And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends."

This has long been one of my favorite scriptures since it portrays the God of heaven who comes to fight for Israel with wounds in His hands, thus further proving Jesus is God.

This weekend I was with a friend of mine from church and I quoted this passage, and she said she didn't remember reading it. I took out my trusty smart phone Bible and did a search for the scripture, and apparently I have been looking at the NLT translation so it popped up in that version:

"And if someone asks, ‘Then what about those wounds on your chest?[a]’ he will say, ‘I was wounded at my friends’ house!’ "

[a] Footnote: Hebrew, wounds between your hands.

And then the TLB:

“And if someone asks, ‘Then what are these scars on your chest and your back?’[a] he will say, ‘I got into a brawl at the home of a friend!’*

* Zechariah 13:6 these scars on your chest and your back. Evidently self-inflicted cuts, as practiced by false prophets; see 1 Kings 18:28. I got into a brawl at the home of a friend, literally, “[These are] wounds I received in the house of my friends.” Some think this refers to Christ; others believe this refers to a false prophet who is lying about the reasons for his scars.

And then the NKJV:

"And one will say to him, ‘What are these wounds between your arms?’[a] Then he will answer, ‘Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.’"

[a] Or hands.

And finally, the NIV:

"If someone asks, ‘What are these wounds on your body[a]?’ they will answer, ‘The wounds I was given at the house of my friends.’"

[a] Or wounds between your hands.


I know there are slight differences between versions, but I haven't seen many as glaring as this, as it has the propensity to altar important theological positions. What do you think? Is it as clear as the KJV version states it, or not?

[Evang.Benincasa]

And I will say to him, What are these wounds in the middle of your hands? And he will say, The ones which I was struck by in the house of my beloved.

6 ήσαν δε εκεί υδρίαι λίθιναι εξ κείμεναι κατά τον καθαρισμόν των Ιουδαίων χωρούσαι ανά μετρητάς δύο η τρείς

The issue is the word ἀνά which means "between" or "middle" could even be translated "near." Yet, whether it's between, or middle, it is to indicate wounds in the hands.

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by Pneuman

For your consideration, from the KJV:
"And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends."

I know there are slight differences between versions, but I haven't seen many as glaring as this, as it has the propensity to altar important theological positions. What do you think? Is it as clear as the KJV version states it, or not?

Speaking as a KJV man: that is the most plain prophecy. The discrepancy of the other versions
actually require an interpretation.

[mfblume]

Modern versions are highly suspect! I have not heard of a revival that came from use of modern versions in the preached word of God due to just such alterations of scripture.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Pneuman

For your consideration, from the KJV:

"And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends."

This has long been one of my favorite scriptures since it portrays the God of heaven who comes to fight for Israel with wounds in His hands, thus further proving Jesus is God.

This weekend I was with a friend of mine from church and I quoted this passage, and she said she didn't remember reading it. I took out my trusty smart phone Bible and did a search for the scripture, and apparently I have been looking at the NLT translation so it popped up in that version:

"And if someone asks, ‘Then what about those wounds on your chest?[a]’ he will say, ‘I was wounded at my friends’ house!’ "

[a] Footnote: Hebrew, wounds between your hands.

And then the TLB:

“And if someone asks, ‘Then what are these scars on your chest and your back?’[a] he will say, ‘I got into a brawl at the home of a friend!’*

* Zechariah 13:6 these scars on your chest and your back. Evidently self-inflicted cuts, as practiced by false prophets; see 1 Kings 18:28. I got into a brawl at the home of a friend, literally, “[These are] wounds I received in the house of my friends.” Some think this refers to Christ; others believe this refers to a false prophet who is lying about the reasons for his scars.

And then the NKJV:

"And one will say to him, ‘What are these wounds between your arms?’[a] Then he will answer, ‘Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.’"

[a] Or hands.

And finally, the NIV:

"If someone asks, ‘What are these wounds on your body[a]?’ they will answer, ‘The wounds I was given at the house of my friends.’"

[a] Or wounds between your hands.


I know there are slight differences between versions, but I haven't seen many as glaring as this, as it has the propensity to altar important theological positions. What do you think? Is it as clear as the KJV version states it, or not?

What did Jesus say?
Joh 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
Joh 5:38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Joh 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Or
Mat 11:10 For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
Mat 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
Mat 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
Mat 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
Mat 11:14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.
Mat 11:15 He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Two things as I read these passages. One the law and prophets testified of Christ. There for the passage in Zech. would be speaking of Christ. Secondly the law and prophets pointed to the time of John as the time they would began to be fulfilled. Meaning they all spoke of the kingdom of God that Christ would set in place by his death and resurrection.