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06-16-2015, 04:57 PM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Helping Chinese, other believers?
Besides prayer and just giving money to "charitable groups", how can we help Christians in China and other non-permissive countries? Short of actually going there (not possible in my situation at present)?
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06-17-2015, 12:09 AM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Re: Helping Chinese, other believers?
Anyone?
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06-17-2015, 05:38 AM
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Re: Helping Chinese, other believers?
I live in a somewhat restricted country, so perhaps I can speak to it a little. Perhaps try to make contact with someone there, encourage them, email them, etc. Find out what's appropriate, as they may be subject to email monitoring or something, but having someone on the outside knowing you exist is pretty nice. Showing kindness to their family, sending them a gift that's not religious are some things that come to mind.
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06-17-2015, 11:50 AM
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Re: Helping Chinese, other believers?
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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06-17-2015, 11:58 AM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood too
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Re: Helping Chinese, other believers?
Here is a picture of Brother David Banta (yellow shirt), a Chinese gentlemen, and some liberal short guy. Anyway, Brother Banta has baptized more Chinese in Jesus name then anyone I have heard of yet. Get a hold of him if you want to help the Chinese people get some Jesus name in their lives.
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~Declaration of Independence
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06-17-2015, 12:26 PM
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Re: Helping Chinese, other believers?
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Originally Posted by CC1
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The church practices both adult baptism and infant baptism, with closed communion. Speaking in tongues is practiced and usually occurs as a group act.
We have had dealings with this Church in the past & yes, they do believe in "infant baptism" not dedication, or blessing babies, but "infant baptism."
For that reason alone, (there are others) I would not support this group.
The Church in China is mainly underground & not part of any mainstream
organization.
That being said, I believe that the Church in China has a strong burden for the Church in the West as, for the most part, it is backslid!
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06-17-2015, 12:42 PM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Re: Helping Chinese, other believers?
I recognize that short liberal! lol
I've been looking online but cannot find any way to get ahold of brother Banta. Does he have a website?
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06-17-2015, 12:46 PM
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Retired Ninja
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Re: Helping Chinese, other believers?
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Originally Posted by Ron
We have had dealings with this Church in the past & yes, they do believe in "infant baptism" not dedication, or blessing babies, but "infant baptism."
For that reason alone, (there are others) I would not support this group.
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Meow for now...
The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise. - Psalm 51:17
Jude 21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. 22 And of some have compassion , making a difference : 23 And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
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06-17-2015, 01:24 PM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood too
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Re: Helping Chinese, other believers?
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Originally Posted by Ron
The church practices both adult baptism and infant baptism, with closed communion. Speaking in tongues is practiced and usually occurs as a group act.
We have had dealings with this Church in the past & yes, they do believe in "infant baptism" not dedication, or blessing babies, but "infant baptism."
For that reason alone, (there are others) I would not support this group.
The Church in China is mainly underground & not part of any mainstream
organization.
That being said, I believe that the Church in China has a strong burden for the Church in the West as, for the most part, it is backslid!
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TJC does practice Infant Baptism, and tongues can only be done in the prayer group.
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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06-17-2015, 01:27 PM
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Re: Helping Chinese, other believers?
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Originally Posted by Esaias
I recognize that short liberal! lol
I've been looking online but cannot find any way to get ahold of brother Banta. Does he have a website?
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http://reclaimkids.org/our-people/
Here is his sister and brother in law, David and Bonnie Ward. They will hook you up with him.
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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