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Jim Bakker exposes prosperity message
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Re: Jim Bakker exposes prosperity message
Yes truly impressive. I remember contending against the prosperity teaching when he was one of its leaders. I had an Aunt who followed him and she never fully recovered when he was exposed.
Nonetheless God is rich in mercy and I have seen Jim on a few sound bites fighting against the pre tribulation rapture and warning people about suffering for Christ.
It seems like his chastisment from God has born fruit. Wonder how he feels about Oneness teaching in this time of his life?
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05-25-2015, 07:41 PM
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Re: Jim Bakker exposes prosperity message
He may be against the prosperity gospel now but he hasn't changed too many of his ways. He is hawking Prepper supplies on his show and website at very high prices. His post trib stance seems caclulated to sell more prepper goods.
http://jimbakkershow.com/lovegifts/
http://jimbakkershow.com/lovegifts/survival-items.html
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
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"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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05-25-2015, 09:34 PM
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Re: Jim Bakker exposes prosperity message
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Why be mid-trib when you can be post-trib and sell twice as much vienna sausage? Hallelujah!
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05-25-2015, 10:13 PM
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Re: Jim Bakker exposes prosperity message
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lol....CC1 just exposed Jim Bakker
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05-26-2015, 05:03 AM
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Re: Jim Bakker exposes prosperity message
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"His ways" that got him in trouble was not simple fund raising. It was much more than that.
If fund raising is wrong then we had better knock out all those Sheaves for Christ fundraisers in our churches.
As far as I'm concerned, any pastor teaching that Christians are commanded in scripture to give 10% of their income to the church is doing something far worse than Bakker peddling trib supplies.
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05-26-2015, 03:49 PM
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Re: Jim Bakker exposes prosperity message
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"His ways" that got him in trouble was not simple fund raising. It was much more than that.
If fund raising is wrong then we had better knock out all those Sheaves for Christ fundraisers in our churches.
As far as I'm concerned, any pastor teaching that Christians are commanded in scripture to give 10% of their income to the church is doing something far worse than Bakker peddling trib supplies.
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Yeah..in fact every time I see the title here...with the word exposes in it, I am reminded of some of the OTHER reasons he failed.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-26-2015, 04:34 PM
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Re: Jim Bakker exposes prosperity message
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Yeah..in fact every time I see the title here...with the word exposes in it, I am reminded of some of the OTHER reasons he failed.
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No doubt about it. He failed greatly. But I've never seen a morally fallen minister so change his message as Bakker has. All the others dig in and double down on their prosperity and cheap grace message.
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05-26-2015, 04:50 PM
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Re: Jim Bakker exposes prosperity message
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No doubt about it. He failed greatly. But I've never seen a morally fallen minister so change his message as Bakker has. All the others dig in and double down on their prosperity and cheap grace message.
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When I get time I would like to hear what he teaches now.
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05-26-2015, 06:57 PM
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Re: Jim Bakker exposes prosperity message
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No doubt about it. He failed greatly. But I've never seen a morally fallen minister so change his message as Bakker has. All the others dig in and double down on their prosperity and cheap grace message.
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Are you sure he isn't into prosperity? BTW fundraising for your own gain is not honorable when it's under the guise of christian charity.
All these TV preachers have the same stigma of getting rich off of it
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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