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05-18-2015, 04:58 PM
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God cannot be a monad because...
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" "Personhood" is unthinkable without encounter between persons. No person is an island. If God were a monad the world would become necessary for his self-realization (as in Hegel). The idea of Trinity guards against that. God as "a being" is God's unifying essence; the three persons together make up God's being. Hegel tried to think of God as Being Itself (Absolute Spirit) as Trinitarian but failed to do justice to the biblical doctrine of the Trinity as did Tillich (IMHO)."http://www.patheos.com/blogs/rogereolson/2015/05/is-god-a-being-or-being-itself/#disqus_thread Found in the comment section.
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05-18-2015, 05:42 PM
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Re: God cannot be a monad because...
Babble.
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05-18-2015, 07:20 PM
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Re: God cannot be a monad because...
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" "Personhood" is unthinkable without encounter between persons. No person is an island. If God were a monad the world would become necessary for his self-realization (as in Hegel). The idea of Trinity guards against that. God as "a being" is God's unifying essence; the three persons together make up God's being. Hegel tried to think of God as Being Itself (Absolute Spirit) as Trinitarian but failed to do justice to the biblical doctrine of the Trinity as did Tillich (IMHO)."http://www.patheos.com/blogs/rogereolson/2015/05/is-god-a-being-or-being-itself/#disqus_thread Found in the comment section.
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I deem the first line false.
Personhood is thinkable even without other persons. Perhaps it's a lonely existence. Perhaps you can keep yourself entertained. Perhaps you don't need entertaining. Either way I can easily imagine a sole person with no other persons. So I have no problem imagining God with no other persons.
I'm not sure how the trinity guards against the world being necessary for God's self realization. I'm not sure why anything but a mind is needed for self realization. But maybe I'm missing something on that part.
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05-18-2015, 08:21 PM
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Re: God cannot be a monad because...
A person is an individual instance of a rational nature. The existence of a person does not require another. The definition of person does not include "in relation to another person".
The argument is unsound and false.
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05-18-2015, 08:30 PM
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Re: God cannot be a monad because...
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
What do you think of this quote?
" "Personhood" is unthinkable without encounter between persons. No person is an island. If God were a monad the world would become necessary for his self-realization (as in Hegel). The idea of Trinity guards against that. God as "a being" is God's unifying essence; the three persons together make up God's being. Hegel tried to think of God as Being Itself (Absolute Spirit) as Trinitarian but failed to do justice to the biblical doctrine of the Trinity as did Tillich (IMHO)."http://www.patheos.com/blogs/rogereolson/2015/05/is-god-a-being-or-being-itself/#disqus_thread Found in the comment section.
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Hi mizpeh,
Does the author suppose that if someone DID become an "island"- by actually being marooned alone on an island- that their personhood would somehow be voided? This is nonsensical.
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05-18-2015, 08:33 PM
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Re: God cannot be a monad because...
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babble.
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i second that as babble.
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05-19-2015, 10:38 AM
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Re: God cannot be a monad because...
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What do you think of this quote?
" "Personhood" is unthinkable without encounter between persons. No person is an island. If God were a monad the world would become necessary for his self-realization (as in Hegel). The idea of Trinity guards against that. God as "a being" is God's unifying essence; the three persons together make up God's being. Hegel tried to think of God as Being Itself (Absolute Spirit) as Trinitarian but failed to do justice to the biblical doctrine of the Trinity as did Tillich (IMHO)."http://www.patheos.com/blogs/rogereolson/2015/05/is-god-a-being-or-being-itself/#disqus_thread Found in the comment section.
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This quote comes off to me as if it is written by someone who is a new ager on some serious stuff, speaking gibberish.
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05-19-2015, 11:27 AM
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05-19-2015, 03:19 PM
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Re: God cannot be a monad because...
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05-19-2015, 04:33 PM
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Re: God cannot be a monad because...
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Hi mizpeh,
Does the author suppose that if someone DID become an "island"- by actually being marooned alone on an island- that their personhood would somehow be voided? This is nonsensical.
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Just one of many trinitarians arguments against Oneness. Others use the argument that God is love supports the trinity.
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