|
Tab Menu 1
Fellowship Hall The place to go for Fellowship & Fun! |
 |
|

08-20-2014, 06:47 AM
|
 |
Registered Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 14,649
|
|
ISIS Beheads American Journalist
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...arning-US.html
This is what Islam taken to its extreme has in store for EVERY HUMAN BEING ON EARTH!
Christians are target number one. Yet ALL who will not convert will be likewise killed.
|

08-20-2014, 07:40 AM
|
 |
Registered Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 14,649
|
|
Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
As this man was forced to renounce his American heritage many will deny Christ when it comes here.
We need to learn to die to self that we may confess Christ all the way through.
Sorry for this mans family must be total shock and grief.
|

08-20-2014, 08:11 AM
|
 |
Administrator
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 16,840
|
|
Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
They also have a second American journalist who they say is next. My wife asked me why he would say the things he said if he knew they were going to kill him. I believe since he was captive for two years it was either the Stockholm syndrome at work of perhaps they lied and told him that once he said those things they would give him a reprieve.
In any case MIchael is correct this is the thoughts and wishes of tens of millions of radical Muslims in the world when it comes to Westerners. While it is true that not all Musllims are radical it is estimated that up to 30% are. Even if that numer is inflated and overall it is just 10% the result is still tens of millions of people intent on the destruction of Christians and Western Society.
It is disheartening for me to see my town of 100,000 people in the Southeastern United States that the local Mosque I pass every day has a parking lot jammed with over 100 cars during their services. How anyone living in America and supposedly embracing American values could be a part of Islam is beyond me.
__________________
"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
|

08-20-2014, 10:04 AM
|
 |
On the road less traveled
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: On a mountain... somewhere
Posts: 8,369
|
|
Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
As this man was forced to renounce his American heritage many will deny Christ when it comes here.
We need to learn to die to self that we may confess Christ all the way through.
Sorry for this mans family must be total shock and grief.
|
Yes, yes, yes. Amen.
|

08-20-2014, 01:08 PM
|
 |
Sister Alvear
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Brazil, SA
Posts: 27,040
|
|
Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
it is much nearer than most think....
__________________
Monies to help us may be sent to P.O. Box 797, Jonesville, La 71343.
If it is for one of our direct needs please mark it on the check.
Facebook Janice LaVaun Taylor Alvear
|

08-20-2014, 03:39 PM
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 31,124
|
|
Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
animals
|

08-21-2014, 03:17 AM
|
 |
Administrator
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: WI
Posts: 5,480
|
|
Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
This may stir up strong feelings and contrary responses, but we shouldn't write these people off so quickly as deranged madmen who unjustifiably hate the West.
Consider that since the invasion of Iraq by the USA in 2003 to topple Saddam Hussein, there have been nearly 150,000 civilian casualties.
Source: https://www.iraqbodycount.org/
If you had an invading, occupying force, through collateral damage, kill that many people in your homeland, how much hatred would get stirred up in your heart?
Factor in then, all the ideological differences, especially religious differences, and you have a group of people that feel no moral compunction at all in killing their enemies.
Is it justified? Not at all. But is it understandable? Through their p.o.v., I think yes, very much so.
|

08-21-2014, 03:39 AM
|
 |
Go Dodgers!
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 45,791
|
|
Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Quote:
Originally Posted by votivesoul
This may stir up strong feelings and contrary responses, but we shouldn't write these people off so quickly as deranged madmen who unjustifiably hate the West.
Consider that since the invasion of Iraq by the USA in 2003 to topple Saddam Hussein, there have been nearly 150,000 civilian casualties.
Source: https://www.iraqbodycount.org/
If you had an invading, occupying force, through collateral damage, kill that many people in your homeland, how much hatred would get stirred up in your heart?
Factor in then, all the ideological differences, especially religious differences, and you have a group of people that feel no moral compunction at all in killing their enemies.
Is it justified? Not at all. But is it understandable? Through their p.o.v., I think yes, very much so.
|
Bro...ISIS are not Iraqi. Most of ISIS are foreign fighters. They started off fighting in Syria and their goal is to form a Caliphate, not to get revenge for all those civilian deaths. What does killing other Iraqis have to do with it anyways?
A LOT of civilian deaths are by other Muslims
If you click the link and go to the first page it lists deaths without attributing them to anyone.
__________________
Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
|

08-21-2014, 08:12 AM
|
 |
Administrator
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: WI
Posts: 5,480
|
|
Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Quote:
Originally Posted by Praxeas
Bro...ISIS are not Iraqi. Most of ISIS are foreign fighters. They started off fighting in Syria and their goal is to form a Caliphate, not to get revenge for all those civilian deaths. What does killing other Iraqis have to do with it anyways?
A LOT of civilian deaths are by other Muslims
If you click the link and go to the first page it lists deaths without attributing them to anyone.
|
Arab people of the Middle-east, and especially Muslims, do not consider national identity the chief unifying cultural factor. It doesn't matter how many people in ISIS are actual citizens of Iraq. That isn't the rallying point.
And yes, a Caliphate is the ultimate goal, and yes, it appears they will stop at nothing, unless stopped by force, to achieve their goals.
But something else has to be understood here. Arab peoples are highly group-orientated thinkers, culturally speaking. The "I" disappears in favor of the "Us". Look at a funeral procession some time and take note how there will be 1,000 people in the street, all sobbing and wailing for the death of someone they didn't even know.
For group-minded people (something the West just doesn't have much of) what happens to one member of the group, happens to all members of the group. So, if one nation is suffering catastrophic civilian casualties because an invading force has been waging war there for 11 years, then all people in the region will feel the war is being waged against them, even if no deaths have occurred inside of their borders.
Which brings me to the original post. Why was an American citizen murdered? It's more than just savagery in their eyes. It's retaliation, small as it may be, against an over the sea enemy who dared to drop even a single bomb against people they consider their brothers.
How many Iraqi civilians were killed by the US only? No one knows. But if the US had not have invaded at all, then the answer would be ZERO. Hence, America will be blamed for every death in Iraq since 2003.
None of this is okay or ought to be given a pass. Hatred blinds all eyes. But ISIS would have no agenda against the US right now if we had not invaded Iraq. But we did, and that makes us an enemy. Automatically.
Our relationship with Israel, of course, plays a significant part, as well. But as long as we stayed on our side of the ocean, the people radical Muslims attacked and killed were Jewish people of Israel, Muslims of whatever minority view, or other ethnic groups not associated with being believers in and worshipers of, Allah. Now that we're on the ground, and have been for years, American and it's citizens in the Middle-east are targets.
The goal is terror, to scare us into leaving the country and region, and so, not be able to stop them from escalating their victories into the creation of a triumphant Caliphate.
Last edited by votivesoul; 08-21-2014 at 08:15 AM.
|

08-21-2014, 08:54 AM
|
Registered Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 17,807
|
|
Re: ISIS Beheads American Journalist
Quote:
Originally Posted by votivesoul
This may stir up strong feelings and contrary responses, but we shouldn't write these people off so quickly as deranged madmen who unjustifiably hate the West.
Consider that since the invasion of Iraq by the USA in 2003 to topple Saddam Hussein, there have been nearly 150,000 civilian casualties.
Source: https://www.iraqbodycount.org/
If you had an invading, occupying force, through collateral damage, kill that many people in your homeland, how much hatred would get stirred up in your heart?
Factor in then, all the ideological differences, especially religious differences, and you have a group of people that feel no moral compunction at all in killing their enemies.
Is it justified? Not at all. But is it understandable? Through their p.o.v., I think yes, very much so.
|
Here we go with the blame America mantra. It's not America's fault these deranged madmen, yes they are, are going around killing every Christian, Muslim or anyone else who doesn't believe exactly how they believe.
What did America have to do with the Iraqi's these barbarians have slaughtered? The Kurds forced to flee to the mountains? Syrians? Other Arabs? I bet a lot of the people these animals killed hated the West like they do.
Blaming America for ISIS' actions is like blaming America for Hitler's extermination of the Jews.
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:15 AM.
| |