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Old 07-10-2014, 10:02 AM
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Another US ally mad

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...70a_story.html

Great job by BHO.

If a Republican was in power the Dems would be screaming about this.
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Old 07-11-2014, 05:51 AM
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Great job by BHO.

If a Republican was in power the Dems would be screaming about this.
Maybe. Still this isn't President Obama's doing. The effects of Snowden's actions are widespread and I am not convinced the damage is far from controlled.
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Old 07-11-2014, 09:18 AM
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Unable to view the link, but read a NYT story about the same issue. NYT Link

1) No one should be surprised that the US spies on everyone, including her allies. I would bet there are and have been German spies here in the US. Every country does it.

2) I doubt this began with obama, so I don't blame him or this admin for the fallout. I would bet the CIA does a lot of which the President is not made aware. That isn't the fault of the President, it's just the way some things have to work, else the President would have a lot more legal troubles than just the current House lawsuit.

3) I also don't blame Snowden for this. I like what he's done and continues to do.
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Great job by BHO.

If a Republican was in power the Dems would be screaming about this.
Well yea, there's plenty of democrats that would be screaming about that, there's also many republicans that are screaming about it now. Don't be like them!
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Unable to view the link, but read a NYT story about the same issue. NYT Link

1) No one should be surprised that the US spies on everyone, including her allies. I would bet there are and have been German spies here in the US. Every country does it.

2) I doubt this began with obama, so I don't blame him or this admin for the fallout. I would bet the CIA does a lot of which the President is not made aware. That isn't the fault of the President, it's just the way some things have to work, else the President would have a lot more legal troubles than just the current House lawsuit.

3) I also don't blame Snowden for this. I like what he's done and continues to do.
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I do not believe this would have happened under any other recent President, either Dem or Rep.
Former CIC had a better relationship with other leaders.
The spying was happening, I am sure, but nothing would have been made public.
Overall, this just shows me how much disdain that Merkel has for BHO.
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I do not believe this would have happened under any other recent President, either Dem or Rep.
Former CIC had a better relationship with other leaders.
The spying was happening, I am sure, but nothing would have been made public.
Overall, this just shows me how much disdain that Merkel has for BHO.
I don't think that is the case.
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