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04-26-2014, 04:36 PM
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Did You Scorn Leaving the UPC?
After you left, did you often go to forums you knew where UPCers would be and trash the UPC non-stop then after someone pointed out you sounded bitter claim "Oh Im over it and have moved on. I have no stones to throw"?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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04-26-2014, 04:39 PM
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Prax - it's "relating their experience," not bashing.
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04-26-2014, 04:43 PM
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Re: Did You Scorn Leaving the UPC?
Oh right...forgot 
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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04-26-2014, 05:11 PM
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Ha ha this thread brings the funny.
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04-26-2014, 05:39 PM
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Re: Did You Scorn Leaving the UPC?
No...sure didnt...kept to myself...didnt try to convince anyone or defend my actions because ultimately it was my decision and not something that could be related and explained in one simple discussion or conversation.Tried having some honest discussions about it and ended up experiencing all kinds of defensiveness to the nth degree... it was the equivalent of covering your ears going "LALALALALA CANT HEAAAAAR YOOOU" So instead of waste my time I just kept my mouth shut...they went their way n I went mine.
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04-26-2014, 07:30 PM
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Re: Did You Scorn Leaving the UPC?
Prax,
I hope you asked this question in sincerity and not just to laugh and scorn the people who may reply.
When I left, I was hurting so deeply, I cannot even describe it. I came to forums because I needed to talk, needed to make sense of what happened to me.
I would say "ah" and people would jump me like nobodies business and scream and yell about what a bitter, horrible backslid person I was. I had to leave for my own emotional safety. I came back later, after I had healed some and did not talk about anything but "safe" subjects for a long time.
It is very telling to me that every time anyone brings up a "not safe" subject, meaning anything negative about the UPC, like it's ugly hang nail on it's big ugliest toe that is the most obvious fault of the UPC, some people just can't handle the slightest bit of criticism at all. I think that is very sad. For these people, there is no rationality to constructive criticism for they believe that ANY criticism is hateful and spiteful.
I can't help that though. And watch the fur fly from all the people I just described after I post this.
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04-26-2014, 09:43 PM
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Re: Did You Scorn Leaving the UPC?
Prax, not sure I understand the title of this thread. Do you mean did a person scorn the UPC when they left? Asking "did you scorn when you left the UPC" seems odd phrasing.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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04-27-2014, 04:44 AM
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Re: Did You Scorn Leaving the UPC?
I rued the day of ever stepping foot into a UPC congregation. Those are years I'll never get back; years I could have used doing something for God instead of sitting on a pew, because of a suspicious pastor who thought I was assigned by a trinitarian church to subvert and overthrow his congregation with trinitarianism.
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04-27-2014, 04:08 PM
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Re: Did You Scorn Leaving the UPC?
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Originally Posted by Dante
I rued the day of ever stepping foot into a UPC congregation. Those are years I'll never get back; years I could have used doing something for God instead of sitting on a pew, because of a suspicious pastor who thought I was assigned by a trinitarian church to subvert and overthrow his congregation with trinitarianism.
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That is what happens when your nickname is "Dante's Inferno"! On a more serious note what do you mean by "instead of sitting on a pew because of a suspicious pastor who tought I was assigned by a trinitarian church to subvert and overthrow his congregation with trinitarianistm"
Did you come from that trinitarian church when you started going to the UPC one? Did you express differences in doctrine that were a cause for him believing that? There has to be much more to this story!
There had to be something that made this pastor think what you said he thought even if just a small thing that his imagination blew up. Give us details!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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04-27-2014, 06:20 PM
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Re: Did You Scorn Leaving the UPC?
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Prax,
I hope you asked this question in sincerity and not just to laugh and scorn the people who may reply.
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I asked because people have left this forum over daily seeing negative posts about the UPC. It's gotten so old and tired even I come here less and less.
It's supposed to be Apostolic Friends Forum but it's become "X-UPCers talk about the UPC"
You are actually the one being defensive over my pointing out that several of the posters here constantly do that.
Most of your accusations don't pertain to me
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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