Compromise or Pragmatic Policy?

[Aquila]

Is this a massive compromise or is this simply a pragmatic policy to keep unity among Christians working for charitable causes?

World Vision: Why We're Hiring Gay Christians in Same-Sex Marriages
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/...tml?paging=off

[Luke]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Is this a massive compromise or is this simply a pragmatic policy to keep unity among Christians working for charitable causes?

World Vision: Why We're Hiring Gay Christians in Same-Sex Marriages
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/...tml?paging=off

This defies logic a Christian is on who is Christ like. Therefore it would seem absolutely necessary to follow the dictates of Jesus to be a Christian. This being so one cannot be a practicing homosexual and a Christian at the same time. Therefore it was most obviously a compromise and forsaking of truth.

[Luke]

Just announced they have reversed that decision! Thank God!!!

[n david]

Color me skeptical, but sometimes in situations like this, I wonder if the companies really do change policy, or if they just make a public statement while continuing business as usual.

[Disciple4life]

Originally Posted by n david

Color me skeptical, but sometimes in situations like this, I wonder if the companies really do change policy, or if they just make a public statement while continuing business as usual.

Business as usual!!! Nobody is going through the office asking people for proof of who they are married to.

[n david]

AOG statement from George Wood

This, and likely other statements like it are what probably made World Vision backtrack and change its mind.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

Color me skeptical, but sometimes in situations like this, I wonder if the companies really do change policy, or if they just make a public statement while continuing business as usual.

Often companies and churches will take an official position that they believe is biblical... yet apply it with far more mercy and grace than others would. I worked for a Christian organization that served the MRDD. Within that organization were gays, couples living together, and even those of other religions and atheists. As long as the individuals kept their private lives private and didn't contradict the vision and message of the organization, they were left to serve as they wished.

Some churches have this position too. Some churches will not excommunicate a member who is "gay" as long as they don't appear to be openly practicing that lifestyle. If it does become an open display, the church moves for discipline or removal of the individual from whatever capacity they are serving.

[Aquila]

Personally, I think our bedrooms should be private (rather we be doing good or bad). The only individuals that I think have a reason to inquire or question are pastors and counselors. If I worked for World Vision I'd feel like reminding my project manager that they are not my pastor, nor did I come to them for counsel. Whatever bedroom practices I have are frankly, none of their business.

Just because you work for someone, I don't believe you surrender your right to privacy. And I've always thought that if they can dictate what I do on my free time, be it smoke or sin... they should be paying me 24/7. They only have me for 8 hours a day.

[Disciple4life]

Hey Aquila,
I get were you are coming from about doing a good job and then going home to live your own personal life. For the most part I agree.

But, I thought I heard before that some companies make you sign a "Morality Clause"?

This is where if you work for Pepsi you can not be out in public drinking a Coke. What do you think about that?

The Employer is upfront before the employee is hired. Everybody knows what the arrangement is and agree to abide by it. You don't agree, you don't get the job.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Disciple4life

Hey Aquila,
I get were you are coming from about doing a good job and then going home to live your own personal life. For the most part I agree.

But, I thought I heard before that some companies make you sign a "Morality Clause"?

I think morality clauses are stupid. You're job DOESN'T own you.

This is where if you work for Pepsi you can not be out in public drinking a Coke. What do you think about that?

The Employer is upfront before the employee is hired. Everybody knows what the arrangement is and agree to abide by it. You don't agree, you don't get the job.

Sometimes taking a job determines the survival of your family. Therefore, I'm willing to wager that the vast majority of people who sign morality clauses to get a job do so to keep their families in their homes and their needs provided for. Not because the clause actually means something to them personally.

My personal opinion is this... an honest days work for an honest days wage. If they can tell you how to live your life and influence what you do 24/7... they should pay you 24/7. They only have you for 8 hours a day (on average)... if they can tell you how to live "off the clock" what else might they start lobbying to get you to do while "off the clock"? Just because you take a job, it shouldn't mean you forfeit your Constitutional rights. You have a right to drink whatever you want, even if you work for Pepsi... you're a freakin' American. Big business is trampling personal GOD GIVEN liberties, in my opinion. I'd like to see a labor movement storm the gates and demand back pay for every single hour they held control over an employee. I'd like the corporate powers to eat crow and admit that we're Americans and we have GOD GIVEN RIGHTS they CAN'T take away!

It's funny... we're quick to critique GOVERNMENT for infractions against our Constitutional liberties, and rightfully so. However, we seem to be completely ignoring how corporate power is slowly reducing us to being 21st century "wage slaves".

If it isn't illegal... NOBODY should have the power to tell you that you can't do something when you're on your own time. Again, if they want to tell me how to live 24/7... I want to be paid 24/7.

God bless America.