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Old 11-09-2013, 08:37 AM
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Another Good Article

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/...ecostal-church

Jesus warned us of wolves in sheep’s clothing, and there’s been plenty of speculation about who these false prophets are in the modern-day church.

As it turns out, it’s not just preachers who may fit the bill. It seems unbelievers pretending to be Christians are integrating themselves into Pentecostal churches only to feign falling away from the faith—just to see your reaction.

Indeed, that’s the stated goal of the Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing Project. Its mastermind, who goes unnamed on his blog FindingDoubt.com, describes it as a “social and psychological experiment where myself and a friend integrate ourselves into a highly conservative religious community without informing the community that we are skeptics. In fact, not only is that information left out, but during our time there we worship, discuss the truth of the Bible with congregants, and otherwise fully participate as conservative believers.”

According to “Wolf,” as we’ll call him since even his domain registration ownership is cloaked, all over the world there are atheists, agnostics, skeptics, secularists and the liberally religious who attend conservative churches for the purpose of social coherence.

“These are people who don’t want to rock the boat, so when their opinions have changed their fellow believers are none the wiser,” Wolf says. “The only difference is that this project is intentional, has specific goals, and we are there to present ourselves as radical men of faith.”

Wolf and his friend reportedly have already infiltrated an unnamed Pentecostal church. Why the Pentecostal church? Wolf was an atheist-turned-Oneness Pentecostal in his teenage years. By his own admission, he preached, taught, ministered, evangelized, counseled, danced and rolled on the floor in the United Pentecostal Church Incorporated—until he started doubting doctrines involving salvation and Christology.

Wolf then became what he calls a “charismatic fundamentalist” who started studying biblical languages and going to as many as seven Christian groups and services a week. Over time, he says he “gained a more critical eye” for the Bible and adopted a more skeptical philosophy.

Wolf claims he and his friend are active members of a Oneness Pentecostal church. He says they worship during the service, speak in tongues loudly during prayer times, and discuss the Bible with conviction. One of the project’s goals is to “truly feel like believers” and “observe as insights when we are actually outsiders.”

Even now, Wolf is actively working to develop close relationships with members of the congregation, to begin ministering, and speaking and doing ministerial projects for the church—all to see how they react in a year or so “when our planned apostasy takes place.”

This is wicked. I wonder if they’ll prophesy over people as part of their “ministering, speaking and ministerial projects.” I wonder how much false doctrine they will insert into this community of believers. I wonder how many seeds of doubt they will plant in the congregation. I wonder how many people will be shocked and hurt when they find out these people, whom they came to know and care about, have turned their backs on Christ, not realizing that in reality, they turned their backs on Christ long ago and are merely pretenders seeking to wreak havoc in the church.

No, these may not be the false prophets that come dressed in sheep’s clothing that Jesus warned us about in the Sermon on the Mount (Matt. 7:15). But they are nevertheless behaving like ravenous wolves. If they infiltrated your church, would you know them by their fruit? I pray that the body of Christ rises up in greater discernment in this hour, where pretenders are making sport of us in our own churches for their own amusement. And, moreover, I pray that Wolf and his friend—in the midst of their evil experiment—come to know the saving grace of Jesus Christ for real so they can shed the disguise and embrace their loving Shepherd.
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Old 11-09-2013, 08:41 AM
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I fear for folks like that.
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Old 11-09-2013, 05:15 PM
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I don't think that they are just in the churches, but also on all Forums.

Time for people to get serious about the gifts of the Spirit. I don't think that could happen in a church where the gifts are alive and well.
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Old 11-09-2013, 05:48 PM
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Wolf claims he and his friend are active members of a Oneness Pentecostal church. He says they worship during the service, speak in tongues loudly during prayer times, and discuss the Bible with conviction. One of the project’s goals is to “truly feel like believers” and “observe as insights when we are actually outsiders.”
Sadly, since many Op pastors deem those who do such things as spiritual giants, they will not suspect a thing.
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Sadly, since many Op pastors deem those who do such things as spiritual giants, they will not suspect a thing.
mhmm... Marjoe
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Old 11-09-2013, 08:21 PM
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navygoat1998, WHY do you consider this "another good article"?

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navygoat1998, WHY do you consider this "another good article"?

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Hey Abiding, I was not sure what to put in the subject line so I just called it "Another Good Article."

I think for the most part I enjoy reading the Charisma articles, so that could have influenced my selection for the subject.

I was not taking a dig at my Oneness brothers and sisters.
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Not surprising, I guess.
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This kinda gets back to my thought that the bible should be secondary. I realized when I posted that what kind of pushback I'd get, but this is a perfect example of not having a deep enough relationship with the Spirit of God to discern these things. The second thing is the failure of the leadership of the church, the pastor, the elders, to spiritually discern those spirits. If they can't do very simple spiritual discernment, how on earth can they lead anyone?

I think back to the movie "Borat" debacle. As long as the behavior was acceptable and comfortable, the folks at the camp meeting were ecstatic. Borat was going to 'get' the Holy Ghost and the screaming and yelling started, but the truth was Borat was just acting the part. The leadership, and the attendees were't spiritual enough to know. They knew learned behavior and religion, but they couldn't hear the Spirit of God.

I'm not the most spiritual person in the world, as about 99.999% of people here will agree because I'm not like them, but the discerning of spirits should be part of any mature believer's life. I usually don't have problems doing that.

The problem isn't with the fakes, the problem is with the believers who cannot discern the fakes and when the debacle takes place, the first persons who should stand up and take there share of the responsibility are the leaders of that particular church.

Oh, and if the power which was manifested in the early church was present now, such persons wouldn't live to be a problem. Shockamo, tie-your-tie and running and jumping and jabbering and shouting isn't manifesting the power of God folks. That's just manifesting mimicry.
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