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Old 10-11-2013, 04:47 PM
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Boehner and the GOP Cave!

They caved. They capitulated. They gave in.

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The revised GOP plan reflects the demands Obama made in a meeting with House GOP Leaders on Thursday. It also reflects the unwillingness of the DC GOP to face a fiscal showdown with Democrats.

Aside from reopening the government and agreeing to raise America's debt over the current $16.7 trillion limit, the Republicans made several other concession to President Obama and the Democrats. One such example is that Obamacare would receive funding. The Republicans would get to take out a portion of the president's signature legislation, but the law would substantially remain intact. The AP reports:

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Under a proposal she and other GOP senators have been developing, a medical device tax that helps finance the health care law would be repealed, and millions of individuals eligible for subsidies to purchase health insurance under the program would be subject to stronger income verification.
In addition, some of the across-the-board "sequester" cuts would be reversed under the GOP plan. It has not been determined which specific cuts will be targeted at this time.

In exchange for meeting, at least momentarily, all of Obama's demands, the House GOP is seeking a "framework" for future negotiations on addressing longer-term budget issues. These negotiations would be led for the Republicans by Rep. Paul Ryan, who is likely to seek a "grand bargain" resolving the nation's structural budget problems.

After such a swift capitulation on the current impasse, how likely is it that the GOP will be able to extract meaningful reforms during yet another round of budget talks? House Leadership has already shown that, when nearing an actual deadline, it will cave while extracting very few concessions.

The GOP surrender comes at a time when it is in a stronger position than it was during the partial government shutdown in 1995/96. The public generally blames both parties and President Obama for the fiscal stalemate. Obama's approval ratings, meanwhile, have cratered to 37%, the lowest of his Presidency.

In addition, 61% of the public thinks significant spending cuts have to be part of any deal to lift the debt ceiling
. By that, they mean actual cuts, not a "framework" to discuss cuts.

The House GOP has signaled to the Democrats that it is desperate to end the stand-off. They will, of course, promise that they will have more "leverage" next time. They've said that so many times, they probably even believe it.
I'm done with Republicans. Done. Not sure I'll even vote in the 2014 mid-terms. What's the point? I'm NOT voting for a baby-killing, gay-loving Democrat; and all Republicans know how to do is pretend they're France.

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Old 10-11-2013, 05:07 PM
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Re: Boehner and the GOP Cave!

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They caved. They capitulated. They gave in.



I'm done with Republicans. Done. Not sure I'll even vote in the 2014 mid-terms. What's the point? I'm NOT voting for a baby-killing, gay-loving Democrat; and all Republicans know how to do is pretend they're France.

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I've said all along that lovers of liberty and the Constitution look in vain for reform to come from within the beltway. Only the States can save the country.
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Old 10-11-2013, 05:40 PM
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Re: Boehner and the GOP Cave!

KUHNER: A search for a silver lining
The costs of Obamacare could sink Democrats


Republicans are on the verge of again becoming the majority party. The conventional wisdom is that the GOP is taking the brunt of the public blame for the partial government shutdown. In the short term, that is true. In the long term, however, the Republicans are on the verge of a major triumph. They will lose the shutdown battle, but win the Obamacare war.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2hSKPgB4q
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