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06-08-2013, 04:00 PM
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Guns Don't Kill People 4 Year Olds Kill People
Authorities in northern Arizona say a 4-year-old boy has accidentally shot and killed his father at a Prescott Valley home.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3407551.html
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06-08-2013, 04:56 PM
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Re: Guns Don't Kill People 4 Year Olds Kill People
It's a tragedy that doesn't need to be politicized by you or other left-wing, anti-2nd amendment types.
Don't make this tragedy your political fodder.
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06-08-2013, 05:04 PM
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Re: Guns Don't Kill People 4 Year Olds Kill People
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A kid could just as easily die from many neglectful oversights of parents, and do. Why single out guns?? OH! OH! OH! I KNOW! Because you are a communist that wants people to be unarmed and defenseless in the face of tyranny.
So has someone promised you a good spot in "the party" once the coup is complete or something?
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06-08-2013, 06:12 PM
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Re: Guns Don't Kill People 4 Year Olds Kill People
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It's a tragedy that doesn't need to be politicized by you or other left-wing, anti-2nd amendment types.
Don't make this tragedy your political fodder.
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tragedy is preventable. addressing the cause of the tragedy is not politicizing. keep your head in the sand and don't try to remedy the cause. way to be a nonviolent christian, putting imperial policy above the word of god.
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06-08-2013, 06:35 PM
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tragedy is preventable. addressing the cause of the tragedy is not politicizing. keep your head in the sand and don't try to remedy the cause. way to be a nonviolent christian, putting imperial policy above the word of god.
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Oh please. This is every bit about politics and your extreme left-wing, anti-2A views. The word of God says nothing against guns or weapons of any kind.
I can be a Christian and own a gun; especially if you can support a baby killer and gay rights supporter like Obama.
It was an accident. Yes, whomever owned the gun was irresponsible and stupid for not having it in a safe location. But that doesn't mean we need to rip up our Constitutional right to bear arms.
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06-08-2013, 07:30 PM
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Re: Guns Don't Kill People 4 Year Olds Kill People
I would go another step farther and say, in this case, whoever owned the gun is responsible for this death.
In this case, it is probably the victim.
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06-08-2013, 07:39 PM
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Re: Guns Don't Kill People 4 Year Olds Kill People
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Originally Posted by n david
Oh please. This is every bit about politics and your extreme left-wing, anti-2A views. The word of God says nothing against guns or weapons of any kind.
I can be a Christian and own a gun; especially if you can support a baby killer and gay rights supporter like Obama.
It was an accident. Yes, whomever owned the gun was irresponsible and stupid for not having it in a safe location. But that doesn't mean we need to rip up our Constitutional right to bear arms.
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This pretty much sums the situation up. A terrible tragedy but for it to be a reason to ban guns makes as much sense as banning cars because car wrecks kill people.
We need better education informing people about keeping guns in a safe manner.
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06-08-2013, 08:05 PM
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Re: Guns Don't Kill People 4 Year Olds Kill People
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Originally Posted by n david
Oh please. This is every bit about politics and your extreme left-wing, anti-2A views. The word of God says nothing against guns or weapons of any kind.
I can be a Christian and own a gun; especially if you can support a baby killer and gay rights supporter like Obama.
It was an accident. Yes, whomever owned the gun was irresponsible and stupid for not having it in a safe location. But that doesn't mean we need to rip up our Constitutional right to bear arms.
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how is "resist not evil, turn the other cheek, love your enemies, pray for them that despitefully use you," congruent with owning a gun? you cherish the constitution more than the word of god. you worship a false idol. i don't support unlimited abortion rights, i support obama on economic policy.
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06-08-2013, 08:32 PM
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how is "resist not evil, turn the other cheek, love your enemies, pray for them that despitefully use you," congruent with owning a gun? you cherish the constitution more than the word of god. you worship a false idol. i don't support unlimited abortion rights, i support obama on economic policy.
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Peter used a sword against a Roman soldier, but Jesus did not command he discard it, only to put it away.
I don't cherish the Constitution more than the word of God, that's nonsense.
Do you support any abortion rights? You said "unlimited," meaning you support killing babies in a "limited" way. Tell me, how do you mesh that with the Bible? You have no Scripture against guns, but there are Scriptures against murdering babies.
Whether you support Obama on a part or a whole, it's still supporting a gay rights activist, baby killer.
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06-08-2013, 08:41 PM
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Re: Guns Don't Kill People 4 Year Olds Kill People
CALM DOWN EVERYONE !!!!
This would be the perfect place for Cindy's "Good Grief!"
D.M. If you have followed this story at all, you will know it is indeed a very tragic event! The owner of the gun was paid a SURPRISE visit by his friend. Both are former military people. In fact, the victim was a Green Beret. The ACCIDENT happened within minutes of the guests arriving at his home. If he isn't accustomed to having children in his home, it is logical to think that the gun would have been easily accessible. The gun owner is distraught over this tragedy!
This incident most definitely SHOULD NOT become political fodder. Pray for the child, the gun owner and this victim's family.
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