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06-01-2007, 09:57 AM
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Hello AFF!
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Why did not God offer some kind of Salvation to Fallen angels?
Why was there no salvation offered to the fallen angels?
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06-01-2007, 10:16 AM
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Coop...
Not sure there's an answer that we can find in the bible, honestly.
Maybe someone much smarter than me can take a stab at it.
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06-01-2007, 10:25 AM
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what I've always wondered is how they "fell" anyway...
if there was no sin, and heaven is a perfect place - what happened? You know?
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06-01-2007, 10:27 AM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Quote:
Originally Posted by COOPER
Why was there no salvation offered to the fallen angels?
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Okay COOP, this is how I understand it. God made the angels in the realm of eternity. God made man in the realm of time. Because of this, Satan and his sin is eternal, whereas, God came in the realm of time(in the form of flesh, of course) to redeem man. This gives us time to repent, because our sin is only temporal until we die. I hope this makes sense.
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06-01-2007, 10:28 AM
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but made himself of no reputation
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My guess...
they did not have a "renewable" heart. Their fall was spiritual in its origins (not of the earth, earthly). They already were from ABOVE and were not subject to death.
Heb 2:9 came to mind....
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
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06-01-2007, 10:33 AM
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Somebody stole my name
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Quote:
Originally Posted by COOPER
Why was there no salvation offered to the fallen angels?
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My Take...
Angels have eternal life. They could not die. Death was rponounced on us after the fall. We are able to partake of Christ's death while angels cannot.
If man had eaten of the tree of life BEFORE he fell he would not have been able to be saved either.
I often wonder if we can fall after we are resurrected.
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12 So whenever you speak, or whatever you do, remember that you will be judged by the law of love, the law that set you free. 13 For there will be no mercy for you if you have not been merciful to others. But if you have been merciful, then God's mercy toward you will win out over his judgment against you.
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06-01-2007, 10:33 AM
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Hello AFF!
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interesting views
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06-01-2007, 10:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tbpew
My guess...
they did not have a "renewable" heart. Their fall was spiritual in its origins (not of the earth, earthly). They already were from ABOVE and were not subject to death.
Heb 2:9 came to mind....
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. |
Never thought of it quite that way, but I like that answer. I hate it when people ask me questions like this. I don't know how to respond.
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06-01-2007, 10:39 AM
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Invisible Thad
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I have always wondered about this
There had to have been SIN in heaven.
we think of heaven as a sinless place but if there was sin then why not now ?
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06-01-2007, 11:05 AM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
Okay COOP, this is how I understand it. God made the angels in the realm of eternity. God made man in the realm of time. Because of this, Satan and his sin is eternal, whereas, God came in the realm of time(in the form of flesh, of course) to redeem man. This gives us time to repent, because our sin is only temporal until we die. I hope this makes sense.
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Have you read Brother Blumes new book "Take A Bite Of Eternal Life"?
The first few chapters deal with this basic subject.
In a nutshell... there could not have been redemption had there never been death.
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