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Old 03-17-2013, 08:41 PM
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Dr. Ben Carson to Retire, Political Career Next?

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Old 03-17-2013, 08:48 PM
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can you name a modern president who wasn't a career politician or at least had political experience? he has no chance to be president. he is just the latest republican fad.
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:12 PM
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can you name a modern president who wasn't a career politician or at least had political experience? he has no chance to be president. he is just the latest republican fad.
Well, I would support him because he makes sense.

Then so does Christie and apparently he's not so high up on the lists of some conservatives.

I wouldn't tie Carson up with Bush.

Christie/Carson would be a great combination.

Still Christie/Rubio would be an even better combination, and if Christie ever made it out of the primaries, I hope he'd have the sense to pick Rubio as his partner.
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Well, I would support him because he makes sense.

Then so does Christie and apparently he's not so high up on the lists of some conservatives.

I wouldn't tie Carson up with Bush.

Christie/Carson would be a great combination.

Still Christie/Rubio would be an even better combination, and if Christie ever made it out of the primaries, I hope he'd have the sense to pick Rubio as his partner.
christie is doomed unless the conservatives split their vote like last time. what about Jeb/Rubio?
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Not ready to jump on the Dr Carson bandwagon. He's riding a wave of support because he's a successful black man who criticized Obama to his face in front of a large audience. Not sure why that suddenly makes him qualified or ready to run for the Presidency.
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Old 03-18-2013, 09:38 AM
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N David, listen to some of things he's saying. He's at least interesting to consider. 2016 is a long way off. That's like 100 political lifetimes.
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Old 03-18-2013, 09:42 AM
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can you name a modern president who wasn't a career politician or at least had political experience? he has no chance to be president. he is just the latest republican fad.
Probably why we should consider people out of the political culture that is incestuous and full of corruption. If everyone was term limited to 6 years we would see a lot of fresh new ideas and responsible behavior emerge out of our government. No reelections. Everyone gets six years to get the job done and then they move on. Stagger elections so that every other year we are voting on president, then in two years Congressmen, then in two years Senators. Supreme Court justices should get ten years and then done. Make it illegal for anyone serving in those offices to later have a career in any lobbyist capacity after they've served. It would eliminate a lot of corruption and cronyism.
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N David, listen to some of things he's saying. He's at least interesting to consider. 2016 is a long way off. That's like 100 political lifetimes.
He's said some good things, however, he also made a statement about gun control that takes him out of any consideration I'd have of him as President.

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When asked if people should be allowed to have semi-automatic weapons, Carson said, "It depends on where you live. I think if you live in the midst of a lot of people, and I'm afraid that that semi-auto weapon is going to fall into the wrong hands of a crazy person, I would rather you not have it. However, if you live 'out in the country somewhere by yourself' and want to own a semi-auto weapon, i've got no problem with that."

So the 2nd Amendment should be based on location?

Sorry, not jumping on board the Carson bandwagon.

Too many made the mistake of voting for Obama without knowing his politics. He was an outsider that said the right things and made a bunch of promises, and look where it's taken us.
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I think his response reflects his assessment of working in the city of Baltimore-- one of the most violent cities in America when it comes to gun violence.

Like any other issue in America, "guns" in the context of 21st century America is a multi-faceted discussion.

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Realistically, is there any gun that could adequately defend us against our government if for whatever reason, our government decided to become our enemy?

The honest answer is no.

While I am 2nd amendment proponent in today's discussion of "guns", the issue is not so easily cut and dry in our current urban situations. His answer reflects that reality.


Question for you. Do you think it would be against our Constitutional protection to allow the police to stop and frisk you at their will, whenever they saw you walking somewhere and thought you had the potential for being a lawbreaker?
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Do you know how the NYPD is enforcing that exception?
(The Stop and Frisk exception.)


They have made that exception the rule as a way of fighting crime in what used to be one of our most violent cities.


Their approach could very well be seen as a violation of our most basic rights. However, those who support the NYPD's practice of that exception say that the violence requires their over-aggressive stop and frisk policies.


Sometimes, it's the strict gun laws in some of our urban areas that inadvertently leads to the arrest of the most violent criminals.


I am more prone to argue that the state and local governments have turned their penal systems into a means to make profits while creating a permanent underclass of law breakers through the creation and enforcement of unconstitutional laws and punishments that do nothing to rehabilitate their unscrupulous pogs.

However, if the urban municipalities are not as evil as I imagine them to be, do you think that they want even stricter gun control laws so that more people die, or do you think that their perspective on "guns" could be different from the rest of America?
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