Israel and the EndTime

[renee819]

Israel and the EndTime

I hope I won’t make this so long. But some things can’t be explained in a few words, and comprehend the meaning.

I don’t know how it will come about, but soon Israel will re-build the Temple. (It could be that a bomb will hit the Dome of the Rock) to pave the way. But it is prophesied and will be done. And it will be done for the Beast

When the 10 Horns are in place, one of them is the Mediterranean Union. One of that Union is Israel. So borders must come down and there will be many changes. It could be thru much bargaining, Israel as an Orthodox Religion, may be exempt from the One World Religion, although many Jews will join it. But not those on the Temple Mount.

When the “vile person” The Beast deals with Israel, we find these words,...

Daniel 11:21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries

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The Jews know how vile he is, therefore they won’t give him the honor of the Kingdom, but he obtains it, how? Thru flattery.

Israel wants peace. They have been trading, giving up, not trading, they didn't get peace or anything in return, there land for peace. No doubt this will continue and the Beast will promise ‘peace and safety’ while he robs them blind.
Another way that the Beast gets his way, “and by peace shall he destroy many.” Dan 8:25
And then we see what happens to those that make a league with the Beast.

22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.
23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people

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The “prince of the covenant” can only be the Jewish High Priest. When is he broken?

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate

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I believe that after the Beast destroys the One World Religion, “arms shall stand on his part” He takes an army and breaks the “league” peace agreement, that he has with Israel. If ‘broken’ means to kill, he will kill the High Priest, and all that stands in his way. Take away the ‘daily sacrifice, and place the “abomination that maketh desolate.”

I said in another Post, the Beast is the abomination. So what could it mean, to, “shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.”
He will place ‘the image of the Beast’ in the Temple. (Just as a pig was placed on the altar during the MacAbees.) Demanding all to worship the Image.

32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days

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This next I believe will be part of the “League” Remember he is bargaining, and gaining the Kingdom by flattery. Didn’t they find oil in Israel, just a few days ago?

24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time

Giving land for peace, and oil for the right to sacrifice. Does anyone believe that the Beast will keep his promise? Well the Jews are not fooled. They don’t honor him, but they want peace and want to keep the sacrifices.

More tomorrow. Getting toooo tired.

[Monterrey]

Uh huh. You ever heard of Irvin Baxter?

[Sam]

Others see verses 1-35 of Daniel chapter 11 as being fulfilled history. In those 35 verses there are 135 facts that have been fulfilled in detail. Such as the 3 kings that would stand up in Persia would be: Cambyses, Pseudo-Smerdis, and Darius 1 Hystapes and the 4th was Xerxes. Verse 4 tells of a mighty king (Alexander the Great) who would arise. Then on about wars and intrigues between the king of the south (Egypt) and the king of the north (Assyria/Persia). Verse 9 speaks of a marriage between the daughter of a king (that would be Berenice, daughter of Ptolemy II) of the south who married the king of the north (Antiochus II of Syria). Verses 21-35 describe things that happened back then like Antiochus IV (called Epiphanes or God manifested) referred to as the vile person who obtained peace by flatteries and stood up to the prince of the covenant (Onias III the High priest). He set up a statue of Zeus in the temple and allegedly offered swine's blood. He outlawed circumcision and the practice of the Jewish faith. However, the people that knew the Lord, the high priest Mattathias and his 5 sons rallied the Jews and fought against the Syrianss The resistance began in the village of Modin near Jerusalem. These men were known as the Maccabees or Hasmonians. On December 25, 165 BC the Maccabees regained control and returned to the Temple in Jerusalem. By this time it had been spiritually defiled by being used for the worship of foreign gods and also by practices such as sacrificing swine. Jewish troops were determined to purify the Temple by burning ritual oil in the Temple’s menorah for eight days. But to their dismay, they discovered that there was only one day's worth of oil left in the Temple. They lit the menorah anyway and to their surprise the small amount of oil lasted the full eight days.

This is the miracle of the Hanukkah oil that is celebrated every year when Jews light a special menorah known as a hanukkiyah for eight days.

Down through verse 35 we read how the Jewish people will be purged "even to the time of the end." Then in verse 36 we read of a "king who shall do according to his will, and shall exalt himself, and magnify himself every god..." Some see this as the antichrist of whom Anitiochus was a picture. Verses 35 on to the end of the chapter speak of this future king. Chapter 12 starts out standing up for Israel during a time of great trouble which some consider to be the story in Revelation 12.

This is not meant to be argumentative but there are different views among God's people as to how much of Daniel chapter 11 is already fulfilled and how much is still future.

[renee819]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

Uh huh. You ever heard of Irvin Baxter?

.Monterry, I remember when Irvin's moother was expectiong Irvin. Their church was about 40 miles from the one we went to. And he went to chuch camp with my children.

I didn't know them personally , just that his dad preached at our church, a few times.

In my 50's, after I had been studying Prophecy for about 20 yrs. I wrote a book and made copies on my printer. I had moved away for a few yrs. When I moved back to my home town, and had discussed my book with family, my niece said, “Rene, your book sounds like Irvin Baxter.” I thought she meant his dad. She said, “No, young Irvin Baxter.” I said, “I didn’t know he was preaching.”

Anyway, I sent him one of my books and then went to see him. We agreed on a few things, but we disagreed on several. Mainly he believes that Babylon sits on the 7 Mts, of the Vatican, in Rev. 17. I believe that Babylon of the endtime, is NYC.

He believes the Leopard in Dan and Rev. is Germany. I believe it is the UN. We don’t hear much about the “Quartet” lately. But, I believe the 4 Heads is the “Quartet” It used to be, any International Policies, were decided by the ‘Quartet.”

Since then I’ve written the book “Red Horse Rising” I suppose I should send him one. Ha. But he is busy, I doubt if he had time to read it.

[renee819]

Sam wrote,

This is not meant to be argumentative but there are different views among God's people as to how much of Daniel chapter 11 is already fulfilled and how much is still future.

Yes, Sam, I studied that. Some even believe that Antiochus was the Beast.

After studying for years, what others had written. Although when I first got interested in prophecy I could hardly find any books on it, at the Library, except Larkin. Later, I got an eyeopener, when I found “The Two Babylons.”

However, after much study and realizing that Larkin was wrong as well as what I had been taught was wrong, (which was a lot of Larkin) I realized the only way to study Prophecy, was to throw it all out, get out of the box of Tradition, and by comparing one scripture against another, and much prayer let God lead me, I trust that he led me to many truth’s.

There is much that I do not know, and much that I don’t believe that anyone knows, because a few things we have to wait and see what happens.

For instance, I don’t who all of those kings in Dan 11 are. I know that Dan starts in past history, and brings us up until, the Endtime. But I believe that one of the things that God showed me, was not to take the word of people that wrote, before it was time to be revealed. That is the main reason, that I threw all old Prophecies out.

When is prophecy supposed to be revealed?

Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

If Daniel’s Prophecies were sealed until the “time of the end” then all interpretation before this time, was just speculation.

[renee819]

Some of the things that will have happened before the Beast takes an army and takes over the Temple.

1. The One World Religion will have come in on the back of the Beast,
2. He will give her power, and she will be persecuting the Saints.
3. Then he will allow his 10 Puppet (Horns) to destroy the One World Religion.
4. NYC gets destroyed
5. The Head—whether the Beast or America—or both, is wounded to death, but recovers.
6. The Beast marches to Jerusalem and breaks his ‘League” takes over the Temple Mount.
7. No doubt he will have been getting Israel’s oil, for the privilege of letting Israel sacrifice (Israel will believe they are doing God’s will, and this will bring the Messiah. However, it is a slap in the face, to Jesus) And the Beast has been scattering the prey, spoils and riches, among his cronies.

Israel has been conquered. The OWR is destroyed. And the world cries—“peace and safety” but Christians that know the Word, know that there will be sudden destruction.

So the Beast sets in the Temple,

2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

I believe this is when he will demand to be worshiped as god. And places “the abomination that maketh desolate” in the Temple.

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed

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Now when are the saints supposed to leave their homes?

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes

This is to Christians. Of course there will be Christians in Judea but why would God tell the Christians in Judea, to flee, but not all Christians.

The image of the Beast will be everywhere. Most likely, in the homes—that would be one reason to flee. However, I see another.

Why would God tell us to flee, without even a coat, food or those things we need to live?

I’m still on subject. This is some background.

TO BE CONTINUED