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Old 12-05-2012, 06:34 AM
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House GOP Leaders Purged Conservatives

And they wonder why we refused to support their "progressive" candidate for President. Some of us knew what they were doing and this is just more proof of it.

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House GOP Leaders Purged Conservatives Using Secret Criteria List

House Republican leaders used a secret criteria list to decide which conservatives to purge from powerful House committees, Breitbart News has learned.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...ervative-purge

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Mark Levin Rips Boehner: Who The **** Does He Think He Is?

They don't allow any Mr. Smith Goes To Washington individuals to appear. They don't allow Abraham Lincoln types, serve one term in the House. They don't allow it! They're trying to crush future leadership. They're trying to crush the conservatives. No more talk about big tents. Oh, they quote Reagan all the time. They don't mean a **** word of it. Let me ask it this way -- let me put it this way: tell me one **** thing John Boehner has done since he's become Speaker to stop Obama on anything. One. Well I can't. I can't.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ink_he_is.html
Who does Boehner thinks he is? After the shenanigans he pulled at Convention, we know who he is and what the GOP is about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=77W5OKStO5s
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Shake up continuing...

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Palin to GOP: 'This Won't Be Forgotten Come 2014'

“We send good conservatives to D.C. to fulfill the promises they made to the electorate, and yet when they stay true to their word the permanent political class in their own party punishes them,” Palin said in a Facebook comment. “This won't be forgotten come 2014. Right now the GOP establishment is more concerned about the opinion of the media and the Georgetown cocktail circuit than they are ‘we the people’ who hired them. For all this new talk of how the GOP needs a ‘populist movement,’ it would do them good to remember they already have one; it’s called the Tea Party movement, and it won for them the majority they now enjoy in the House.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...ulist-Movement

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Dick Armey Quits Tea Party Group, Citing Internal Split

Eased out with an $8 million payout provided by an influential Republican fundraiser, former GOP House Majority Leader Dick Armey says he has left the conservative tea party group FreedomWorks because of an internal split over the group's future direction.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2237609.html
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Dick Armey left the deep-pocketed tea party group he helped build over a clash with a top lieutenant who Armey and others in the organization believed was using the group's resources to pad his pockets, POLITICO has learned.

Asked about his refusal to sign the memorandum, Armey, a former House Republican leader, said, "What bothered me most about that was that he was asking me to lie and it was a lie that I thought brought the organization in harm's way."

http://www.nj.com/us-politics/index....ks_presid.html
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Same strong arming that happened at the RNC Convention - shut out the dissenting voices. Lovely...

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Reality Check: Is Speaker Boehner pushing conservatives out of Budget and Finance Committee seats?

Speaker of the House John Boehner just removed 4 of the most fiscally conservative Congressmen in Washington from finance and budget committees.

http://www.fox19.com/story/20262055/...-finance-seats
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BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! republicans in disarray because they can't win a national election with the right wing nut jobs. i heard dick armey got paid a cool 8 million when he left freedom works. way to go for donating to tea party!!!
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BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! republicans in disarray because they can't win a national election with the right wing nut jobs. i heard dick armey got paid a cool 8 million when he left freedom works. way to go for donating to tea party!!!
He had a consulting fee contract, so the $8 million isn't all that shocking. He did a lot of work for FreedomWorks.

Did you notice Boehner is pulling the same thing they did at Convention - shutting out any conservative dissenting voice? I hope they crash and burn.
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He had a consulting fee contract, so the $8 million isn't all that shocking. He did a lot of work for FreedomWorks.

Did you notice Boehner is pulling the same thing they did at Convention - shutting out any conservative dissenting voice? I hope they crash and burn.
po, i read several of the articles you posted. the gop is in soul search mode after losing the election. should it embrace the tea party or become more centrist? i think boehner is making the right moves for republicans. the tea party candidates lost their elections except for bachman so the obvious course is more centrist. i know you are disappointed, but isn't that the obvious direction the party should take with a more conservative leader than romney? putting romney aside, what direction do you think the party should go? should be good analysis tonight on cable.
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po, i read several of the articles you posted. the gop is in soul search mode after losing the election. should it embrace the tea party or become more centrist? i think boehner is making the right moves for republicans. the tea party candidates lost their elections except for bachman so the obvious course is more centrist. i know you are disappointed, but isn't that the obvious direction the party should take with a more conservative leader than romney? putting romney aside, what direction do you think the party should go? should be good analysis tonight on cable.
We need to begin by focusing on the Constitution. I would like to see a candidate who was a little bit Jeffersonian and a little bit of a Federalist with a sound financial base.

Newt has a great article today lining out what needs to be done with Obama's second term.
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The smart legislative strategy for Obama’s second term


Instead of being focused on a phony fiscal cliff, Republicans might focus on how they will approach Obama’s second term.

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/12/0...s-second-term/
I don't know what direction the Tea Party is taking. Grover Norquist is saying it will come out stronger for the next election cycle. That's a possibility. The tea party had and has so many factions...refusing leadership, it is hard to define it in the best possible terms and hard to have confidence in. They started out great, but you really can't make an entity have sound growth without some type of central leadership. I was disappointed that they stood against Romney and then sided with him. Some of the blogs were just full of great stuff and then they capitulated. It was like Graham pulling down their "cult" info on the Mormons. Know what you know and take a stand. Good grief.

And an afterthought: We have to fight our tendency to think in terms of duopoly. There is no third party, we don't even have a second one. In fact we need to stop thinking in terms of party and think in terms of principle. Our Founding Fathers created vertical and horizontal checks and balances to use one ballast against another and they despised factions. We need to support conservatives where ever they are. In AND out of the GOP. Newt's plan works well if we apply pressure to the RINOs from within the party AND from alternate parties like the Constitution Party and even the Libertarian Party. We don't have to operate in terms of either/or, that is how the duopoly keeps us down.
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We need to begin by focusing on the Constitution. I would like to see a candidate who was a little bit Jeffersonian and a little bit of a Federalist with a sound financial base.

Newt has a great article today lining out what needs to be done with Obama's second term.


I don't know what direction the Tea Party is taking. Grover Norquist is saying it will come out stronger for the next election cycle. That's a possibility. The tea party had and has so many factions...refusing leadership, it is hard to define it in the best possible terms and hard to have confidence in. They started out great, but you really can't make an entity have sound growth without some type of central leadership. I was disappointed that they stood against Romney and then sided with him. Some of the blogs were just full of great stuff and then they capitulated. It was like Graham pulling down their "cult" info on the Mormons. Know what you know and take a stand. Good grief.

And an afterthought: We have to fight our tendency to think in terms of duopoly. There is no third party, we don't even have a second one. In fact we need to stop thinking in terms of party and think in terms of principle. Our Founding Fathers created vertical and horizontal checks and balances to use one ballast against another and they despised factions. We need to support conservatives where ever they are. In AND out of the GOP. Newt's plan works well if we apply pressure to the RINOs from within the party AND from alternate parties like the Constitution Party and even the Libertarian Party. We don't have to operate in terms of either/or, that is how the duopoly keeps us down.
po, you are sounding like an african american or latino. "the man" is keeping us down. you would make a great candidate for liberation theology.

newt wrote a good article, but mark levin said, "boehner is no newt gingrich" i'm not sure boehner has the stategic vision to pull off this type of plan. i predict that the tea party caucus will continue to obstruct and the dems will take the house in 2014.

you talk about constitutional principles, but i don't see the practicality of governing or getting things done. a purist will never gain a governing majority because of the interests groups, whether entitlement or defense represented by a majority in both parties. so what is your victory strategy? I think you should get used to minority status. welcome to the club.
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po, you are sounding like an african american or latino. "the man" is keeping us down. you would make a great candidate for liberation theology.


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newt wrote a good article, but mark levin said, "boehner is no newt gingrich" i'm not sure boehner has the stategic vision to pull off this type of plan. i predict that the tea party caucus will continue to obstruct and the dems will take the house in 2014.
No one is as bold as Newt. Maybe Rand Paul would be. Boehner is a weenie, er, I mean whiner.

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you talk about constitutional principles, but i don't see the practicality of governing or getting things done. a purist will never gain a governing majority because of the interests groups, whether entitlement or defense represented by a majority in both parties. so what is your victory strategy? I think you should get used to minority status. welcome to the club.
You don't have to be a purist to understand that the American people will vote for sound principles - IF - you present your plan and show how it will work. Not that you can do it, but why it will work.

I speak especially of an economic plan, which Romney never really sold anyone on, being the big, bad business man he claimed to be. He can whine about demographics, but anyone with logic knows that "bold plans" sell no matter the demographic. If the challenger looks like what is already seated, they won't win and that is what happened.

I was always amazed everyone kept touting Romney's "Olympic save" when he used federal dollars to make it work - it was totally a pork barrel deal. Well connected people in Utah got loads of money. Go figure, people are dumb.

On the social issues, I think like a Libertarian - I want them at the state level and not federal.
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No one is as bold as Newt. Maybe Rand Paul would be. Boehner is a weenie, er, I mean whiner.


You don't have to be a purist to understand that the American people will vote for sound principles - IF - you present your plan and show how it will work. Not that you can do it, but why it will work.

I speak especially of an economic plan, which Romney never really sold anyone on, being the big, bad business man he claimed to be. He can whine about demographics, but anyone with logic knows that "bold plans" sell no matter the demographic. If the challenger looks like what is already seated, they won't win and that is what happened.

I was always amazed everyone kept touting Romney's "Olympic save" when he used federal dollars to make it work - it was totally a pork barrel deal. Well connected people in Utah got loads of money. Go figure, people are dumb.

On the social issues, I think like a Libertarian - I want them at the state level and not federal.
let me know when you find that bold economic plan. right now it looks like rubio and christie. not sure if they have spoken on economics. put on your research cap and do some digging. or are you sold on rand yet?
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