Paul Ryan Goes "Rogue"

[Dedicated Mind]

The Romney campaign was furious. But Ryan reportedly said, “Let Ryan be Ryan and let the Stench be the Stench.”

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81618.html

[canam]

and you get your news from sat night live , jimmy kimmel and hbo ?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81618.html

I heard ORomney's inner campaign was having big trouble. I kind of got the impression with some of the comments that Romney and Ryan were making on the stump.

Romney: It's my campaign
Ryan: It's Romney's campaign

But,Ryan has his own stench.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al2HA...ature=youtu.be

The Republicans haven't done much to stop Obama. So, their fear mongering is not moving me in the least. Newt stood up to Clinton and still says this, earlier in the year - "Shut The Government Down If You Have To, 1995 Wasn’t So Bad." Boehner needs to take a lesson.

The Republicans are merging with the Democrats. There is a larger portion of Independents, now, than there are Republicans and Democrats - ripe time for a third party to emerge. It would be an astounding victory for the American people. Maybe not this year, but hopefully, in time to come.

[Pressing-On]

DM, Did you see this clip from 2005?

Romney - 'I used to think that becoming rich and becoming famous would make me happy. Boy, was I right'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...5-remarks.html

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

DM, Did you see this clip from 2005?

saw that last night on lawrence odonnell. i think a third party would spell doom for republicans. the repubs are already in trouble with demographics and the dems have claimed the center. many lefties are dissatisfied but content with electing the most leftist person in a centrist platform. repubs are the ones who are not content with centrists but they nominated mccain and romney both centrists. it is the right wing that is not content, but tea party candidates can't win by themselves. a third party would have to appeal to both parties, but i think a majority of dems will stay loyal and the repubs will be split. either way repubs have to change either because of a third party or because of more latinos. what do you think about this and what are your thoughts?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

saw that last night on lawrence odonnell. i think a third party would spell doom for republicans. the repubs are already in trouble with demographics and the dems have claimed the center. many lefties are dissatisfied but content with electing the most leftist person in a centrist platform. repubs are the ones who are not content with centrists but they nominated mccain and romney both centrists. it is the right wing that is not content, but tea party candidates can't win by themselves. a third party would have to appeal to both parties, but i think a majority of dems will stay loyal and the repubs will be split. either way repubs have to change either because of a third party or because of more latinos. what do you think about this and what are your thoughts?

I think that the GOP doesn't deserve loyalty from anyone. It's corrupt and they've shown how much. They have, successfully, kept Gary Johnson and Virgl Goode off the OK ballot - not giving OK a choice except the two parties. That is not what America should stand for.

Let it fall or rise on the votes of the people. And I don't mean getting rid of the Electoral College. If that was done, the smaller states would never have representation. Just give ballot access is all I'm saying.

Make sure that whoever wants to, legitimately, run has a chance, not having big money stopping them. We need to end this duopoly.

You are right that a third party needs to appeal to both sides. That is the difficulty. You have Gary Johnson who will appeal to the disgruntled Democrats because of his social issues, but the conservatives will have a huge problem with him.

Then you have Virgil Goode who is strong on both social and constitutional issues. The social won't appeal to the left.

We need to get behind whichever party stands strong on our Constitutional rights and that is not the Democrats nor the Republicans, by large. I don't know how well Gary Johnson will do, but he is a successful two-term governor - a better record than Romney had.

Virgil Goode refuses to use PAC money, and that makes his run a difficult one, but he also has a great record fighting for our country - better than the two guys at the top.

It's a messed up election year for our country. A crying shame.

[Dedicated Mind]

but what do you think about the future of the republican party? do you expect a third party to replace it? how can the rebubs appeal to a majority? I don't see how your views can ever be a majority. I think the biggest mistake right now for the repubs is tax cuts for the rich. americans aren't buying it. if repubs would drop that and focus on the deficit with conservative social values, I think they could win again.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

but what do you think about the future of the republican party? do you expect a third party to replace it? how can the rebubs appeal to a majority? I don't see how your views can ever be a majority. I think the biggest mistake right now for the repubs is tax cuts for the rich. americans aren't buying it. if repubs would drop that and focus on the deficit with conservative social values, I think they could win again.

What do I really think? America is not meant to recover. Both parties are running us off this cliff. There is a new economic plan being implemented, but they have to crash the system to make it happen. What used to be conspiracies is now a reality. That's what I think.

[Pressing-On]

You know when I read all of this stuff like this, I feel like I am in some sci-fi movie. The primary was insane and the general election is worse. Crash and burn. Lies and liars. Romney is not only losing, he is starting to hurt the down ticket candidates. I am not 100% on this prediction, but this jerk could cost us the senate and our majority in the house.

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

What do I really think? America is not meant to recover. Both parties are running us off this cliff. There is a new economic plan being implemented, but they have to crash the system to make it happen. What used to be conspiracies is now a reality. That's what I think.

I knew you had some of that Ron Paul loonieness in you. But what would you do without politics and someone to complain about? this is almost as good as sex.