"You Can't Be Saved Without a Pastor."

[RandyWayne]

OK, it has been over a couple of decades since I was in the UPC and I do remember ministers that were as blunt as this guy is. Are there still pastors in your districts (for those who are still in the org) who say what this man does? Or are we talking about just small pockets of UC's scattered around?

[trialedbyfire]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

OK, it has been over a couple of decades since I was in the UPC and I do remember ministers that were as blunt as this guy is. Are there still pastors in your districts (for those who are still in the org) who say what this man does? Or are we talking about just small pockets of UC's scattered around?

There are trinitarians that preach like this as well. I was taught similar things in the COGIC church and the Full Gospel movement has a few like him as well. This isn't anOP phenom...

[Timmy]

It's been said right here on AFF.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Timmy

It's been said right here on AFF.

I've rarely heard it so bluntly though, at least not for many years. He even says stuff like if "dress like your pastor dresses" and if you hear preaching and your pastor looks concerned then YOU need to be concerned!

I guess his HONESTY is refreshing at any rate.

[trialedbyfire]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I've rarely heard it so bluntly though, at least not for many years. He even says stuff like if "dress like your pastor dresses" and if you hear preaching and your pastor looks concerned then YOU need to be concerned!

I guess his HONESTY is refreshing at any rate.

That's I was taught as a child. I remember being taught that in the church I grew up in which was not OP, and it was taught pretty bluntly especially at the Full Gospel church.

[bbyrd009]

He prolly thinks he's "helping"
Not too hard to see why anyone who
sounds even a little different is ridiculed.

[Chateau d'If]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

OK, it has been over a couple of decades since I was in the UPC and I do remember ministers that were as blunt as this guy is. Are there still pastors in your districts (for those who are still in the org) who say what this man does? Or are we talking about just small pockets of UC's scattered around?

It's obvious you're a bitter hater.

[brodano]

I've seen familys name thier boys after the pastor. and also men comb and part thier hair the same way. It still goes on today. i've seen out here in Indiana at many UC churchs. We are to be Christ like Not like man. People need to be themselves and seek after what God wants you to be. He dont want Robots.

[trialedbyfire]

Originally Posted by brodano

I've seen familys name thier boys after the pastor. and also men comb and part thier hair the same way. It still goes on today. i've seen out here in Indiana at many UC churchs. We are to be Christ like Not like man. People need to be themselves and seek after what God wants you to be. He dont want Robots.

There's nothing wrong with that.

[Michael The Disciple]

Well ideally sure we should follow good ministry. Now the guy talking in the video I would not want to be like. So glad I have always seen Jesus as my Pastor. I will judge "pastors" as to their likeness to Jesus. Believe me a good Pastor (one like Jesus) is more rare than fine gold.