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07-10-2012, 10:12 PM
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The Trouble With Apostolics is...
The movement was founded on experience and feeling instead of solid Bible exegesis.
The movement has historically given entirely too much authority to pastors, which has led to rampant spiritual abuse.
The movement doesn't have a consistent doctrine concerning justification, nor does it attempt to understand this beautiful Bible cornerstone.
The movement loves standards of holiness more than the spirit of holiness.
The movement is all about visible measurements instead of inner purity.
The movement exists solely as a counter-Christian enterprise, and does not seriously attempt to evangelize the world.
The movement assumes the world knows the Bible, and rejects it.
The movement eats its own.
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07-10-2012, 10:15 PM
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Re: The Trouble With Apostolics is...
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Charnock
The movement was founded on experience and feeling instead of solid Bible exegesis.
The movement has historically given entirely too much authority to pastors, which has led to rampant spiritual abuse.
The movement doesn't have a consistent doctrine concerning justification, nor does it attempt to understand this beautiful Bible cornerstone.
The movement loves standards of holiness more than the spirit of holiness.
The movement is all about visible measurements instead of inner purity.
The movement exists solely as a counter-Christian enterprise, and does not seriously attempt to evangelize the world.
The movement assumes the world knows the Bible, and rejects it.
The movement eats its own.
Other than that, it's fine?
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07-10-2012, 10:16 PM
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Re: The Trouble With Apostolics is...
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Other than that, it's fine?
It's D.O.A.
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07-10-2012, 10:38 PM
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Re: The Trouble With Apostolics is...
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Originally Posted by
Charnock
The movement was founded on experience and feeling instead of solid Bible exegesis.
The movement has historically given entirely too much authority to pastors, which has led to rampant spiritual abuse.
The movement doesn't have a consistent doctrine concerning justification, nor does it attempt to understand this beautiful Bible cornerstone.
The movement loves standards of holiness more than the spirit of holiness.
The movement is all about visible measurements instead of inner purity.
The movement exists solely as a counter-Christian enterprise, and does not seriously attempt to evangelize the world.
The movement assumes the world knows the Bible, and rejects it.
The movement eats its own.
You are painting with way too broad a brush. These are problems which exist among some Apostolics but there is a lot of diversity among Apostolics.
07-10-2012, 10:59 PM
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Re: The Trouble With Apostolics is...
Yeah...but for
some there is a large measure of truth in what he says.
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07-10-2012, 11:02 PM
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Re: The Trouble With Apostolics is...
I agree that the brush is painted broad, but there is no doubt that there is truth to all of his statements in some measure....
07-10-2012, 11:07 PM
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Re: The Trouble With Apostolics is...
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Charnock
It's D.O.A.
Then why spend any time here, on an Apostolic forum?
07-10-2012, 11:22 PM
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Re: The Trouble With Apostolics is...
Imo, I do not think it is D.O.A. but it can use some cardiac massage and breath of fresh air...
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07-10-2012, 11:28 PM
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Re: The Trouble With Apostolics is...
One of the biggest problems the Apostolic movement has is bitter, ex apostolics like Charnock.
07-10-2012, 11:39 PM
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Re: The Trouble With Apostolics is...
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Sam
You are painting with way too broad a brush. These are problems which exist among some Apostolics but there is a lot of diversity among Apostolics.
This^^^
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AreYouReady?
Yeah...but for
some there is a large measure of truth in what he says.
I agree...
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Charnock
It's D.O.A.
I disagree...
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AreYouReady?
Imo, I do not think it is D.O.A. but it can use some cardiac massage and breath of fresh air...
Cardiac massage is a little extreme, but fresh air isn't enough - especially for those that preach against it.
There needs to be a change in our culture, where Jesus is the focus and heartbeat. Everything will flow from that.
And no, I'm not saying ditch standards to do it.
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