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Old 05-21-2012, 05:14 PM
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I've been following this story from my hometown.

Two young boys survived a life of horror at the hands of their own father. The third one died at the hands of his father.

If these boys walked into your church building, how would some of you preachers try to embark a healing process for these boys?

What about their father? What made him do this? Is he not in need of salvation?

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"Police took the graphic and disturbing images just hours after the boy was found not breathing on Nov. 4 on the floor of the family's home on West Washington Street.

It was a principal's call home that triggered the nightmare of duct tape, beatings, humiliation and burns from a hot iron that eventually ended with Tramelle's death."

http://www.southbendtribune.com/news...,7765177.story
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Old 05-21-2012, 05:38 PM
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"What about their father? What made him do this? Is he not in need of salvation?"

Well, assuming that he doesn't get the death sentence,
there are prison ministries. Oh, and he doesn't know it yet,
but he's about to get really humble--those types aren't
exactly heroes there.
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Old 05-21-2012, 06:17 PM
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Re: Life Issues

I really wish I wouldn't have read that.
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Old 05-21-2012, 06:21 PM
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"What about their father? What made him do this? Is he not in need of salvation?"

Well, assuming that he doesn't get the death sentence,
there are prison ministries. Oh, and he doesn't know it yet,
but he's about to get really humble--those types aren't
exactly heroes there.
Yeah byrd, really humble.
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Old 05-21-2012, 06:32 PM
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I really wish I wouldn't have read that.
Me too.
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Old 05-21-2012, 06:59 PM
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How do police officers, doctors, coroners, prosecutors, defense attorneys, and judges keep from losing their minds. They see so much horror. There is no sentence, no justice for these kinds of crimes against children. It is just sickening the evil that is among us.
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Old 05-21-2012, 07:26 PM
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I've been following this story from my hometown.

Two young boys survived a life of horror at the hands of their own father. The third one died at the hands of his father.

If these boys walked into your church building, how would some of you preachers try to embark a healing process for these boys?

What about their father? What made him do this? Is he not in need of salvation?

Excerpt:
"Police took the graphic and disturbing images just hours after the boy was found not breathing on Nov. 4 on the floor of the family's home on West Washington Street.

It was a principal's call home that triggered the nightmare of duct tape, beatings, humiliation and burns from a hot iron that eventually ended with Tramelle's death."

http://www.southbendtribune.com/news...,7765177.story
As a few here may say, "The boys just need to get over it. A good prayin-through at a pentecostal alter is what they need!".

Ya, it makes me sick too.
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Old 05-21-2012, 07:34 PM
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I've seen a lot of this type of stuff from my years of hospital service. From 22 month old babies suffering internal damage after being sexually abused...to young children hanging themselves in a closet because of ...who knows what going on in their home life.

It is heartbreaking.

But this is why I put this particular issue on here. There is so much of this out there...these life issues that affect so many people while many Apostolic churches make an issue out of hair and standards.

Many people wish they do not read things like this. But...these are traumatic horrors that ordinary people go through...especially those who do not know God.

How many ministers can effectively help people who go through horrors like this? How many people in church can relate? How many saints would extend themselves to befriend someone, who maybe in their past has gone through one example of traumatization such as this? People like this are damaged goods when they walk into our church buildings. They are looking for Jesus to save them and to help them heal from abuse.

Scars from victims are not always visible. It is an erroneous statement to make that people victimize themselves when they leave a church...that they do not want to live for God. If only one knows what people go through outside the safe walls of our churches. Many people stuff years of abuse in some form down inside and choke on it because they do not know how to break free from it.
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As a few here may say, "The boys just need to get over it. A good prayin-through at a pentecostal alter is what they need!".

Ya, it makes me sick too.
You tend to blame everything on pentecostals don't you?


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I've been following this story from my hometown.

Two young boys survived a life of horror at the hands of their own father. The third one died at the hands of his father.

If these boys walked into your church building, how would some of you preachers try to embark a healing process for these boys?

What about their father? What made him do this? Is he not in need of salvation?

Excerpt:
"Police took the graphic and disturbing images just hours after the boy was found not breathing on Nov. 4 on the floor of the family's home on West Washington Street.

It was a principal's call home that triggered the nightmare of duct tape, beatings, humiliation and burns from a hot iron that eventually ended with Tramelle's death."

http://www.southbendtribune.com/news...,7765177.story
I could not read the story after some of the comments by those who did.

What a monster! Those poor children.
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Old 05-21-2012, 07:59 PM
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These stories are not for the very sensitive...so I do understand.

It's just that I myself suffered abuse issues, though not as severe as these boys have.

I worked in hospitals, nursing homes and mental health places where I have seen all sorts of sufferings by human beings at the hands of others or by illness.

I am thinking that maybe Christ wants us to be a light, a Good Samaritan, a friend that sticks closers than a brother/sister to those who suffer. How can we help another's wounds?
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