Fact About The End Time Remnant

[Michael The Disciple]

Todays Preachers and Teachers fight hard against the importance of keeping the commandments of God. They tell us this has nothing to do with salvation because our salvation from beginning to end only depends on the death of Jesus accepted by faith.

Yet in the book of the end time (Revelation) we find the remnant of saints identified as those who KEEP HIS COMMANDS.

Rev. 12:7

12:17 The dragon grew angry with the woman, and went away to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep God’s commandments and hold Jesus’ testimony.

Those in the end time identified with the TESTIMONY OF JESUS are also identified as those who keep his commandments.

Rev. 14:11-13

They have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name. 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.”
14:13 I heard the voice from heaven saying, “Write, ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.’”

Here those who take the mark of the beast are contrasted to those who have the FAITH OF JESUS, those who keep his commandments.

Here is our third witness from Gods end time book (Revelation) to this truth.

Rev. 22:12-15

22:12 “Behold, I come quickly. My reward is with me, to repay to each man according to his work. 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. 22:14 Blessed are those who do his commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter in by the gates into the city. 22:15 Outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. Rev. 22:12-15

When Jesus comes he will reward each man according to his work, that is, what he has done. Those who he calls blessed are identified as those who have DONE HIS COMMANDMENTS.

Let us be quick to note Jesus says THEY WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO THE TREE OF LIFE!

And that THEY MAY ENTER INTO HIS CITY!


Now friends we could say that although these scripture portions are in the book of Revelation its truth is not limited to it. For that remnant of people who have the FAITH OF JESUS and are identified with keeping his commands are simply the SAINTS who had been doing this beforehand.

It seems the Lord is pointing this truth out to us they we may be kept from the end time error that one who is diligent to obey the commands of our God are "legalists" and "pharisees".

Rather we find the amazing but shocking truth the the end time remnant CONSISTS OF THOSE who not only hold the FAITH OF JESUS but also are keeping his commandments.

Is this important? Its important enough that Jesus says only those who do so will ENTER INTO HIS CITY AND PARTAKE OF THE TREE OF LIFE.

Let us not be deceived.

[Dedicated Mind]

I can't think of anyone who would disagree with you on this board. who are you referring to?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

I can't think of anyone who would disagree with you on this board. who are you referring to?

I hope everyone here agrees. If so let it be for reinforcing what they already know. If not they can be exposed to the truth.

[bbyrd009]

Amen.

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

I can't think of anyone who would disagree with you on this board. who are you referring to?

We have been asking MTD for a while now, what exactly are the COMMANDS we are to obey?
If a person is teaching truth and, yet they cannot teach the truth explicitly, then of what use is the "truth"?

In other words, if our salvation depends on keeping these COMMANDS, but yet you don't tell us what these COMMANDS are, then there's no point saying over and over "keep the commands."

And so I ask (just like Aquila has done before), what are these COMMANDS?

In my opinion, this scripture is quite clear
1 John 3
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

But we await MTD's list of the COMMANDS (from the scripture)...

[Timmy]

Exactly. Grace, schmace.

[TGBTG]

Continuing with the thought above:

It's like shouting in the streets "You have to be saved, you have to be saved." Someone then walks up to you saying "How can I be saved?"

And your response is "you have to be saved" Seriously??

What is the point of saying "you have to be saved" if you are not going to tell the person what they must do to be saved.

Again, if our salvation depends on these COMMANDS, then you should at least tell us what these COMMANDS are (if you care for our souls that are in danger of perishing).

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Exactly. Grace, schmace.

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[Aquila]

Jesus only indicates the following commands:

1. Be born again. This includes repentance and submission to water baptism. It comes with the promise of the Holy Ghost.

2. We are to love God with all our being and to love others as ourselves.

That sums it up.

I'd love to see Michael's list of commandments. Will they include commandments from the Law of Moses? Will they include the Ten Commandments? Will they include the cultural admonishments of Paul as found in the New Testament (such as head coverings in Corinth)? Will they include denomination specific commandments (such as no make-up or television)? Will they include pastor specific commandments (no motorcycles, no nude pantyhose, dress codes)? Will Michael's list include dietary commandments?

I'm waiting to see Michael's list so that we all can determine if we are really saved or not.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

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Grace is, so they say, granted to those who don't deserve it. Right? Sounds like Mike doesn't think it will be granted, unless you keep the commandments, or else: "No grace for you!" Sounds like. (And, BTW, the Bible sounds like that, too. Look how Jesus will separate the sheep from the goats, e.g.)