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10-12-2011, 07:57 PM
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Proposal For New General Conference
A lot of talk has gone on about the increased cost of hosting General Conference each year. One step that has been taken to help contain that cost is to have GC in St. Louis each year so HQ staff planning and putting on the GC will not incur travel costs.
However I am thinking perhaps the UPCI ought to consider a radically different type of General Conference.
How about having GC at a large local church in St. Louis that would have minimal cost associated with renting it with the primary aim to stream a high quality video stream to every local UPC church where a it could be projected on a large video screen with either rented equipment or the existing video setup in some churches.
The audio mix could be done professionally for the video stream (unlike the terrible audio mix I have heard in recent years on GC webcasts) so chuches could run a high quality feed through their sound systems so people could enjoy the music, etc.
This would cut the cost of putting on a GC tremendously and allow UPC people whose budgets do not allow them to take off work and make the trip to GC a chance to enjoy it.
The local churches could make this a church event with potluck dinners or dessert socials before or after the services for fellowship.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-12-2011, 08:00 PM
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Re: Proposal For New General Conference
too good of an idea to be adopted
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10-12-2011, 09:51 PM
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Re: Proposal For New General Conference
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too good of an idea to be adopted
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Agreed.
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10-12-2011, 11:14 PM
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Re: Proposal For New General Conference
The UPC has no church large enough in ST Louis. Not even close.
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10-12-2011, 11:26 PM
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Re: Proposal For New General Conference
I think GC should be for ministers only.
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10-13-2011, 03:52 AM
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Re: Proposal For New General Conference
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I think GC should be for ministers only.
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I think this is probably right. It should be a time for ministers to encourage each other, find direction, and discuss possible changes.
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10-13-2011, 05:51 AM
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Re: Proposal For New General Conference
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Originally Posted by CC1
A lot of talk has gone on about the increased cost of hosting General Conference each year. One step that has been taken to help contain that cost is to have GC in St. Louis each year so HQ staff planning and putting on the GC will not incur travel costs.
However I am thinking perhaps the UPCI ought to consider a radically different type of General Conference.
How about having GC at a large local church in St. Louis that would have minimal cost associated with renting it with the primary aim to stream a high quality video stream to every local UPC church where a it could be projected on a large video screen with either rented equipment or the existing video setup in some churches.
The audio mix could be done professionally for the video stream (unlike the terrible audio mix I have heard in recent years on GC webcasts) so chuches could run a high quality feed through their sound systems so people could enjoy the music, etc.
This would cut the cost of putting on a GC tremendously and allow UPC people whose budgets do not allow them to take off work and make the trip to GC a chance to enjoy it.
The local churches could make this a church event with potluck dinners or dessert socials before or after the services for fellowship.
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We'll be sure and let Bro Bernard and his 'people' know about your plan, CC1...lol!
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10-13-2011, 06:54 AM
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Re: Proposal For New General Conference
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
The UPC has no church large enough in ST Louis. Not even close.
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Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I am proposing abandoning the large physical conference with perhaps the live audience made up of a few thousand of area UPCer's, officials, etc. You could decide just how big you wanted to go and if you wanted a significant size you could always rent another denom church like I think they did for NAU's funeral. Maybe find a church holding 3-5,000 to rent.
I hope you did not think I thought there was a church in St. Louis that would hold 15,000 people! The whole idea was to downsize and go 21st century in webcasting it.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-13-2011, 06:55 AM
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Re: Proposal For New General Conference
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Originally Posted by Sarah
We'll be sure and let Bro Bernard and his 'people' know about your plan, CC1...lol!
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Hey, the good GS and I lived in the same city for many years!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-13-2011, 07:53 AM
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Re: Proposal For New General Conference
CC1 - wouldn't work.
They wouldn't be able to sell books, CD's, DVD's to everyone there. That's a big money maker for them (or used to be).
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