|
Tab Menu 1
| Fellowship Hall The place to go for Fellowship & Fun! |
 |
|
07-31-2011, 07:11 PM
|
|
Pride of the Neighborhood
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 6,166
|
|
|
What is a "Move of God"? Is it Bible or Culture?
Within our Pentecostal subculture we have a lot of terminology and concepts that are derived more from our Pentecostal culture rather than Biblical precident. The list is long but one I'm curious about is the idea of a "move of God". The Bible doesn't use that phrase anywhere that I'm aware of. I don't know of where the NT Church ever said, "We had a move of God!" And then some of the things we attribute to a "move of God" like passing out, screaming, goosebumps, running, rolling, wild seizure like dancing, etc are things not found in Scripture.
Do you think these things are legit, do you think they are wrong, do you think they are of God or do you think they are man-made, cultural issues?
__________________
When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
|
07-31-2011, 07:58 PM
|
 |
Austin
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: blank
Posts: 867
|
|
|
Re: What is a "Move of God"? Is it Bible or Cultur
Quote:
Originally Posted by deacon blues
Within our Pentecostal subculture we have a lot of terminology and concepts that are derived more from our Pentecostal culture rather than Biblical precident. The list is long but one I'm curious about is the idea of a "move of God". The Bible doesn't use that phrase anywhere that I'm aware of. I don't know of where the NT Church ever said, "We had a move of God!" And then some of the things we attribute to a "move of God" like passing out, screaming, goosebumps, running, rolling, wild seizure like dancing, etc are things not found in Scripture.
Do you think these things are legit, do you think they are wrong, do you think they are of God or do you think they are man-made, cultural issues?
|
I don't know for sure but in the OT the spirit of God moved upon the waters and the sea parted. So, can you put a label on what will happen when God determines to touch something or his spirit comes upon something.
Most of the old time pentecostal sayings were created by some portion of scripture.
The spirit of God came upon Samson and he with the jaw bone of a wild donkey, killed 9,000 Philistines. Wouldn't someone think that was strange today.
The spirit of the Lord came upon King David and he took off his clothing and danced before the ark of the covenant, wow, that don't fit into modern day thinking.
Any how, God is God all by himself, he'll do whatever he wishes and in response, don't be ever surprised how it all comes out..
|
07-31-2011, 07:58 PM
|
|
Registered Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 10,749
|
|
|
Re: What is a "Move of God"? Is it Bible or Cultur
Quote:
Originally Posted by deacon blues
Within our Pentecostal subculture we have a lot of terminology and concepts that are derived more from our Pentecostal culture rather than Biblical precident. The list is long but one I'm curious about is the idea of a "move of God". The Bible doesn't use that phrase anywhere that I'm aware of. I don't know of where the NT Church ever said, "We had a move of God!" And then some of the things we attribute to a "move of God" like passing out, screaming, goosebumps, running, rolling, wild seizure like dancing, etc are things not found in Scripture.
Do you think these things are legit, do you think they are wrong, do you think they are of God or do you think they are man-made, cultural issues?
|
A "move of God" is the presence of God active in amongst the church. God or the Spirit of God moved many times in the NT. Whenever there was a miracle, a healing, a soul converted, hearts healed, believers renewed in the Spirit, souls baptized in the Spirit, etc... I don't consider the things you spoke of as a move of God.
__________________
His banner over me is LOVE....  My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
|
07-31-2011, 08:15 PM
|
|
Saved by Grace
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Decatur, TX
Posts: 5,247
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by mizpeh
I don't consider the things you spoke of as a move of God.
|
Agreed.
__________________
"Resolved: That all men should live to the glory of God. Resolved, secondly: That whether or not anyone else does, I will." ~Jonathan Edwards
"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
|
07-31-2011, 08:17 PM
|
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 31,124
|
|
I believe the phrase "move of God" is loosely used to denote a sovereign move of God's Spirit such as in what we see in Scripture on the day of Pentecost and among the Gentiles in Acts 10.
|
07-31-2011, 08:26 PM
|
 |
Loving God, His Word, His Name
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 861
|
|
|
Re: What is a "Move of God"? Is it Bible or Cultur
A move of God - n. A situation wherein the presence of God is manifested in such a way through prayer, dedicaton, consecration, and total submission that repentance and faith is strengthened, and the people who experience it walk out of the place of worship with a definite change that effects their entire life and lifestyle.
|
07-31-2011, 08:55 PM
|
 |
Forever Loved Admin
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 26,537
|
|
|
Re: What is a "Move of God"? Is it Bible or Cultur
Quote:
Originally Posted by mizpeh
A "move of God" is the presence of God active in amongst the church. God or the Spirit of God moved many times in the NT. Whenever there was a miracle, a healing, a soul converted, hearts healed, believers renewed in the Spirit, souls baptized in the Spirit, etc... I don't consider the things you spoke of as a move of God.
|
Agreed, and I have been in other denominational churches where this has happened. That does not mean that we shouldn't shout or dance with joy, as a response to glorify God.
__________________
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
|
07-31-2011, 11:35 PM
|
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 31,124
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by UnTraditional
A move of God - n. A situation wherein the presence of God is manifested in such a way through prayer, dedicaton, consecration, and total submission that repentance and faith is strengthened, and the people who experience it walk out of the place of worship with a definite change that effects their entire life and lifestyle.
|
Think about the theological implications of your definition.
|
07-31-2011, 11:39 PM
|
|
Registered Member
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 6,889
|
|
|
Re: What is a "Move of God"? Is it Bible or Cultur
.no such thing as a move of God. God doesn't change or budge (not much) He moves waters, planets, people, stars attitudes, tumors. But He doesn't move. But I understand the expression.
|
08-01-2011, 11:29 AM
|
|
Pride of the Neighborhood
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 6,166
|
|
|
Re: What is a "Move of God"? Is it Bible or Cultur
I think the fact that in just a few posts we have very arbitrary definitions underscores the fact that this terminology and concept isn't really defined in Scripture. Like a lot of things in Pentecostalism, something becomes commonly accepted, the cliches become a part of the vocabulary and then we end up with a lot of bad doctrine and theology.
I find too often we as a movement grasp after what we perceive as "deeper" spirituality but ultimately turns into "sign seeking". Whether conservative or liberal there is a lot of "faux-spirituality" that opens the door to all sorts of craziness 7t I Cor. 14). Too often the power of the simplicity that is in Christ is ignored for something else. Is there anything deeper than grace? The Cross? Redemption? Faith?I've been guilty of it and I've seen it happen wasy too often that we don't feel validated unless we have a manifestation of power, a miracle or some supernatural event to point to.
I say let's celebrate and rejoice in the Cross, let's believe like never before and let's find peace and assurance in God's grace. Let's leave the miraculous up to Him when where and how He chooses.
__________________
When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:33 AM.
| |
Linear Mode
