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Old 06-24-2011, 10:32 PM
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The Splitting

Zechariah tells of a future event when the Lord will split the Mount of Olives creating a rift valley running from east to west with half of the mountain moving to the north and the other half moving to the south [Zechariah 14:4-5]

The eastern extent of this valley will run to Azal, the location of an ancient city in the Jordanian wilderness east of Jerusalem [the area of ancient Edom: Petra/Bozrah]

He speaks to a future believing returned remnant of Israel and these will flee from Satan’s beast in the little horn of Daniel’s visions for 1260 days of protection leading up the visible return of their Messiah and King

His action will include destroying the beast’s garrisons surrounding the protected remnant [Isaiah 34:1-8; 63:1-4] and then His routing of the beast’s followers who will be occupying Israel [Daniel 11:41] and driving them to the wider conflict of Armageddon [Isaiah 62:1; Ezekiel 38; 39; Joel 2:20; Micah 5:5-6]

This event of the fleeing remnant is the same as His admonition given in Matthew 24:15-16 and recorded in Daniel 12:11 and Revelation 12:6; 12:14 [when they see the abomination of desolation being set up on the temple mount by the invading followers of the beast at the middle of the 70th week decreed they will flee thru the rift valley created by the Lord; He is the eagle symbolized in Revelation 12:14]

The additional 30 days added to the second 1260 days of the 70th week decreed [1290 days] is for the Lord’s routing of the beast and his followers from the occupation of Israel, Jerusalem, and the temple mount culminating in the battle of Armageddon

The Lord will not be seen at the splitting event by earth dwellers just as He was not seen parting the Red Sea for the fleeing of the Israelites from Egyptian bondage, and He will not appear visibly to the world until just after Armageddon [Matthew 24:29-31; Revelation 1:7]

One also needs to notice that the immortal pre-tribulation church and the believing martyrs of the tribulation period will be with Him to contend with the beast and his followers at Armageddon [Joel 2:2-11; Zechariah 14:5: Jude 1:14-15; Revelation 16:1-16; 19:11-21]
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Old 06-25-2011, 09:42 AM
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Re: The Splitting

Alternatively, if we consider prophecy focuses on the cross and the timeframe after the cross -- that same generation -- we might consider what Adam Clarke said:
Zec 14:4
And his feet shall stand - He shall appear in full possession of the place, as a mighty conqueror.

And the mount of Olives shall cleave - God shall display his miraculous power as fully in the final restoration of the Jews, as he did when he divided the Red Sea that their forefathers might pass through dry-shod. Some refer this to the destruction of the city by the Romans. It was on the mount of Olives that Titus posted his army to batter Jerusalem. Here the tenth legion that came to him from Jericho was placed. Joseph. De Bello, lib. 6 c. 3. It was from this mountain that our Lord beheld Jerusalem, and predicted its future destruction, Luk_19:41, with Mat_24:23; and it was from this mountain that he ascended to heaven, (Act_1:12), utterly leaving an ungrateful and condemned city.

And half of the mountain shall remove - I really think that these words refer to the lines of circumvallation, to intrenchments, redoubts, etc., which the Romans made while carrying on the siege of this city; and particularly the lines or trenches which the army made on Mount Olivet itself.
The key is that rivers of living water would flow from this rent mountain. Jesus plainly said the rivers of living water are the baptism of the Holy Ghost.
Zechariah 14:8-9 KJV And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be. (9) And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

John 4:14 KJV But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
In Jerusalem, Jesus said these words:
John 7:37-39 KJV In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. (38) He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (39) (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
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Jesus is seated right now over all names and powers in this age and the age to come. When the resurrection occurs, sin will not so much as exist in mankind any more, for sinners will have been removed into the lake of fire and death shall no more affect us due to our bodies having been changed to immortal bodies.
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Zechariah tells of a future event when the Lord will split the Mount of Olives creating a rift valley running from east to west with half of the mountain moving to the north and the other half moving to the south [Zechariah 14:4-5]

The eastern extent of this valley will run to Azal, the location of an ancient city in the Jordanian wilderness east of Jerusalem [the area of ancient Edom: Petra/Bozrah]

He speaks to a future believing returned remnant of Israel and these will flee from Satan’s beast in the little horn of Daniel’s visions for 1260 days of protection leading up the visible return of their Messiah and King

His action will include destroying the beast’s garrisons surrounding the protected remnant [Isaiah 34:1-8; 63:1-4] and then His routing of the beast’s followers who will be occupying Israel [Daniel 11:41] and driving them to the wider conflict of Armageddon [Isaiah 62:1; Ezekiel 38; 39; Joel 2:20; Micah 5:5-6]

This event of the fleeing remnant is the same as His admonition given in Matthew 24:15-16 and recorded in Daniel 12:11 and Revelation 12:6; 12:14 [when they see the abomination of desolation being set up on the temple mount by the invading followers of the beast at the middle of the 70th week decreed they will flee thru the rift valley created by the Lord; He is the eagle symbolized in Revelation 12:14]

The additional 30 days added to the second 1260 days of the 70th week decreed [1290 days] is for the Lord’s routing of the beast and his followers from the occupation of Israel, Jerusalem, and the temple mount culminating in the battle of Armageddon

The Lord will not be seen at the splitting event by earth dwellers just as He was not seen parting the Red Sea for the fleeing of the Israelites from Egyptian bondage, and He will not appear visibly to the world until just after Armageddon [Matthew 24:29-31; Revelation 1:7]

One also needs to notice that the immortal pre-tribulation church and the believing martyrs of the tribulation period will be with Him to contend with the beast and his followers at Armageddon [Joel 2:2-11; Zechariah 14:5: Jude 1:14-15; Revelation 16:1-16; 19:11-21]

If people are expecting literal,your asking for a truck load of misunderstanding
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If people are expecting literal,your asking for a truck load of misunderstanding
Right. It's like saying swords literally swallow blood and fill their bellies according to the prophetic language spoken here:


Isaiah 34:6 KJV The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.
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Zechariah tells of a future event when the Lord will split the Mount of Olives creating a rift valley running from east to west with half of the mountain moving to the north and the other half moving to the south [Zechariah 14:4-5]
The eastern extent of this valley will run to Azal, the location of an ancient city in the Jordanian wilderness east of Jerusalem [the area of ancient Edom: Petra/Bozrah]
You're simply regurgitating a popular fable that is based on a mistranslation of Zechariah 14:5. None of it is true.

The Israelis have identified the location of Azal; and since it doesn't lie east of either Jerusalem or the Mount of Olives, your fairy tale of people fleeing east through the Mount of Olives to Azal is completely debunked.
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