Donald Trump Calls for Obama Birth Certificate

[deacon blues]

Donald Trump has been speaking lately about how President Obama ought to produce a birth certificate. While I don't consider myself a "birther" and I have felt the call to make this an issue a losing effort, DT really has piqued my interest.

First he makes the reasonable observation that all of us, including himself, have to produce birth certificates all the time for various reasons. If you have one, why not produce it? Remove all doubt and show it.

Second, DT has been saying something I didn't realize. BO has spent nearly $2 million fighting this in the courts. If you are a nuturally born citizen, why would you spend that kind of money when you could save yourself a ton of dough and just prove you have a birth certificate?

Third, the Governor of Hawaii is Democrat. The whole state practically is Democrat. The only document produced has been a "Certificate of Live Birth" which is not a birth certificate. A C of LB has bo authorized signatures on it, according to DT.

After hearing The Donald talk about this, I'm kind of saying, "Yeah, really, what's the big deal if you've got one, if everyone questioning you is wrong?" You'd simply produce one, voila! Here it is you birther wackos. But instead BO and his cronies act like they got something to hide.

Obviously his mother never suspected he'd be President and if he was born somewhere else, if it was in a third world country, it was probably difficult to procure documentation of his birth there, so when she returned to Hawaii, she got the C of LB. I don't know, it is interesting to consider.

DT makes the point that Arnold Schwarzenegger can't run for President because of his origin of birth. If BO wasn't born here, he shouldn't be allowed to remain in office or run in 2012.

Before you BO defenders get up in arms, remember the Dan Rather debacle of the 2004 election when fake documents were used to try to prove W was AWOL during his Air National Guard days. Anti-Bush folks felt like, if proven, Bush's AWOL status should've been enough to prevent him from a second term. Had it been proven true, it could've made a difference in the election. Had it not been for the internet and the information age, Dan Rather reporting the story as fact might have been enough to pull it off. The documents were proven forged and Rather lost his job.

But what we are talking here is much more than the son of a powerful political family getting a pass for violating the military code (a serious offense for someone wishing to be Commender-in-Chief). What we are talking here is someone violating a prerequisite of the U.S. Constitution.

If W was fair game to be in question back in 2004 with forged documents as the basis of the case against him, then wy shouldn't BO be in question until he can produce an official document proving his origin of birth required by the Constitution?

[Pressing-On]

I was surprised that someone didn't already start a thread on this.

It is a total hoot and I am loving Donald right now. LOL!

Mark Levin produced his b/c today as well. LOL!

Anyway, Donald has a good point. He said, ""If you go back to my first grade, my kindergarten, people remember me. Nobody from those early years remembers him," Trump said. "If you're going to be president of the United States, it says very profoundly you have to be born in this country."



Get over it, Ferd! I am loving me some Donald today!

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Donald Trump has been speaking lately about how President Obama ought to produce a birth certificate. While I don't consider myself a "birther" and I have felt the call to make this an issue a losing effort, DT really has piqued my interest.

First he makes the reasonable observation that all of us, including himself, have to produce birth certificates all the time for various reasons. If you have one, why not produce it? Remove all doubt and show it.

Second, DT has been saying something I didn't realize. BO has spent nearly $2 million fighting this in the courts. If you are a nuturally born citizen, why would you spend that kind of money when you could save yourself a ton of dough and just prove you have a birth certificate?

Third, the Governor of Hawaii is Democrat. The whole state practically is Democrat. The only document produced has been a "Certificate of Live Birth" which is not a birth certificate. A C of LB has bo authorized signatures on it, according to DT.

After hearing The Donald talk about this, I'm kind of saying, "Yeah, really, what's the big deal if you've got one, if everyone questioning you is wrong?" You'd simply produce one, voila! Here it is you birther wackos. But instead BO and his cronies act like they got something to hide.

Obviously his mother never suspected he'd be President and if he was born somewhere else, if it was in a third world country, it was probably difficult to procure documentation of his birth there, so when she returned to Hawaii, she got the C of LB. I don't know, it is interesting to consider.

DT makes the point that Arnold Schwarzenegger can't run for President because of his origin of birth. If BO wasn't born here, he shouldn't be allowed to remain in office or run in 2012.

Before you BO defenders get up in arms, remember the Dan Rather debacle of the 2004 election when fake documents were used to try to prove W was AWOL during his Air National Guard days. Anti-Bush folks felt like, if proven, Bush's AWOL status should've been enough to prevent him from a second term. Had it been proven true, it could've made a difference in the election. Had it not been for the internet and the information age, Dan Rather reporting the story as fact might have been enough to pull it off. The documents were proven forged and Rather lost his job.

But what we are talking here is much more than the son of a powerful political family getting a pass for violating the military code (a serious offense for someone wishing to be Commender-in-Chief). What we are talking here is someone violating a prerequisite of the U.S. Constitution.

If W was fair game to be in question back in 2004 with forged documents as the basis of the case against him, then wy shouldn't BO be in question until he can produce an official document proving his origin of birth required by the Constitution?

2 Million Dollars? Its 2011 and he can't get a fake one good enough to shut people up? Maybe he should visit Trader's Village, , LOL.

[BeenThinkin]

Great post Deacon. No one living today wrote the constitution, stating that a person had to be born in the United States of America to be eligible to be president. That was written years ago. But, now if an individual simply ask for a part of the rules for being president to be proven he's called a "birther!"

WHY?

My second question, and I don't want to hear a bunch of lip, just answer the question, "If Obama has an original birth certificate, "signed by the doctor present at his birth", why doesn't he present it? WHY...WHY!

WHY NOT!

Every American should be interested in seeing the REAL document. But no! Obama's little yes men have to try to justify his stupidity. If he's got an original he would be doing himself and the country a big service by simply laying it on the table and saying, "There it is!"

Again... "WHY WON"T HE SHOW IT, IF HE HAS ONE?"

WHY WOULD HE SPEND 2 MILLION DOLLARS TO KEEP FROM SHOWING IT?

Is there a liberal anywhere that will answer these questions and not try to make the person asking the question look stupid.

Been Thinkin

[jfrog]

*yawn* it was done shown.

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by jfrog

*yawn* it was done shown.

The original with doctors signatures?.... SOURCE .... SOURCE .... SOURCE!

YAWN....YAWN

Been Thinkin

[canam]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I was surprised that someone didn't already start a thread on this.

It is a total hoot and I am loving Donald right now. LOL!

Mark Levin produced his b/c today as well. LOL!

Anyway, Donald has a good point. He said, ""If you go back to my first grade, my kindergarten, people remember me. Nobody from those early years remembers him," Trump said. "If you're going to be president of the United States, it says very profoundly you have to be born in this country."



Get over it, Ferd! I am loving me some Donald today!

And no one remembers him in college either,including the people who knew everyone. He is a total fraud that we dont know the half of YET!

[canam]

Actually he should just go to Dan Rather, he could give him one that was "fake but true" ,then both sides would be happy ?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

The original with doctors signatures?.... SOURCE .... SOURCE .... SOURCE!

YAWN....YAWN

Been Thinkin

*yawn* if you won't believe the one he showed then you won't believe anything he does show.

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by jfrog

*yawn* if you won't believe the one he showed then you won't believe anything he does show.

jfrog... the one he showed has no signature of any doctor. Is that too hard to understand? A birth certificate and a death certificate must have a signature on it for it to be legit!

Again, why take the same old course.... I asked you two main questions and you as usual dodged the issue.

WHY WHY WHY does Obama refuse to show it, if he has it.?

Give me one reason, that makes sense, for him not showing it.

The question frog is not whether he has one, but why doesn't he show the authentic, original birth certificate that is signed by a doctor?

WHY WHY?

Been Thinkin

DID You GET IT? THE QUESTION IS "WHY"?