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Old 03-04-2011, 06:50 PM
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Jesus And His Commandments

In the great commission Jesus said this:

28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Matt 28:19-20

After bringing men to Christ and baptizing them what is the next thing? Jesus said teach them to observe all his commandments. Teaching his commandments is very important to Jesus.

This aspect of the great commission is seriously minimized today. In the end time restoration I think we will see this again becoming vital in the Churchs mission.

Do they teach the commandments of Jesus in your Church? Do you teach them to others?
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Old 03-04-2011, 06:59 PM
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In the great commission Jesus said this:

28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Matt 28:19-20

After bringing men to Christ and baptizing them what is the next thing? Jesus said teach them to observe all his commandments. Teaching his commandments is very important to Jesus.

This aspect of the great commission is seriously minimized today. In the end time restoration I think we will see this again becoming vital in the Churchs mission.

Do they teach the commandments of Jesus in your Church? Do you teach them to others?
Great post, brother....

Jesus said, "If you love me you will keep my commandments..."

What is the opposite side of that coin? "If you do not love me you will not keep my commandments." It is the same, "If you do not keep my commandments, you do not love me."
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I agree. We have reached consensus...
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I agree. We have reached consensus...
Right! All three of us!
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In the great commission Jesus said this:

28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Matt 28:19-20

After bringing men to Christ and baptizing them what is the next thing? Jesus said teach them to observe all his commandments. Teaching his commandments is very important to Jesus.

This aspect of the great commission is seriously minimized today. In the end time restoration I think we will see this again becoming vital in the Churchs mission.

Do they teach the commandments of Jesus in your Church? Do you teach them to others?
Commandments: Love God. Love others. Be forgiving. There's probably a few more but those seem to be the biggest ones that come to my mind.
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Old 03-04-2011, 08:17 PM
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Jesus did not mind being identified with his commandments. He makes this a great priority to the new convert. We teach people to pray and they must if they are to have fellowship with him. Yet to embrace his commandments and do them is every bit as important as praying.

After all when I was in the world drinking, doing dope, and many other things that were sin I prayed. Many people in the world today pray. According to Jesus we must first believe in him and be baptized. That points us in the right direction, the true Jesus.

Obviously we are to pray. Prayer to God would be very fundamental to our belief. Yet without knowing and observing his commands he will not count us among his disciples.

8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

No wonder there is so much division today. It seems every man does what is right in his own eyes. Yet if we were all taught his commandments from the time of our conversion just think how much more unity in beief and practice we would have.
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:25 PM
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Allow me to preface myself by saying that the new convert is one who has been through the experiences detailed in the great commission. We see it all put together in Acts 2:38.

We are then told they continued in the Apostles doctrine.

So these people having received the Holy Spirit (life of Jesus) were immediately to begin their training in the commands of Jesus. Their lives were impacted and changed by repenting, being baptized into Jesus Christ, and being filled with the Spirit.

They had become new creations in him. They now empowered to live the life of a disciple.

Next on the agenda is for them to be further changed. Their lives are to be separated to Jesus Christ. The Lord Jesus does this through his commandments.

4:1 Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more.
4:2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus. 1 Thess 4:1-2

How are we supposed to know how to walk and please God?

By learning his commandments. He shows us what he likes or dislikes. We are to order our lives accordingly. To obey is to join your life to his life. To ignore or disobey is to remain in the self life.
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Does Jesus require that we live out his commands?

He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. John 14:21

Jesus is wanting us to both have and keep his commands. When we give ourselves to him we are to give ourselves fully. We will need time to study and assimilate his words. Other things must take second place to learning of him and doing his will.

He actually says if we keep his word he will count that we love him. Then he says because we love him he will MANIFEST HIMSELF TO US.

Isnt that what we are looking for? MANIFESTATIONS OF HIS LOVE?

Many today are frustrated in their walk with Jesus Christ. They know there is more to this life than what they are experiencing. All of todays teaching focuses on the fact "theres nothing you can do to have favor with God".

This is not entirely accurate. Jesus said if we keep his commands he will love us and manifest himself to us.

Its no wonder the devil wants people to think they have no part in the walk of holiness. The more people are convinced they can do nothing that would be pleasing to God the less they will know of his favor.

If men sit on a pew and embrace the idea that "Jesus did it all" and theres nothing left for them to do they miss out two ways. First they will not know the joy of a personal fellowship with Jesus. He will not manifest himself to them. Second because of disobedience to his commands they will not enter his Kingdom.

Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. Rev. 22:14


Friends when Jesus said "it is finished" he was referring to his role as the Lamb who was slain from the foundation of the world. He was hanging on the cross when he said that. That particular work was now finished!

By no means was he implying there would then be nothing for his disciples to do. That would contradict a vast array of scripture.

As stated earlier top priority was given to the Apostles of Christ to go and teach his commandments to all who would be his disciple. And not just to teach but to obey. Matt 28:20

Today this is looked at as "works salvation".

Actually this salvation is A FAITH THAT WORKS.

We are to DO many things. We are NOT to do many things.

We are to be DOERS OF THE WORD and not hearers only.

The hearer who has not the faith to be a doer is a deceived man.

Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. James 1:21-22

So Jesus commandments are very important to the children of light. Do we even know what he expects of us? Do out Teachers spell them out to us? Do you want them to?

Many today do not want to hear about Jesus commandments.

They want Jesus to be their "friend" yet dont understand he will NOT be their friend unless they do them.

Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you. John 15:14

Am I saying there are things we must DO if we want Jesus to be with us?

Paul the Apostle said the same.

Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you. Phillipians 4:9

If we want Jesus to be with us the Apostle said we must DO those things which we have learned, received, heard, and seen in his life.

But wait! Someone cry out didnt Jesus say he would be with us ALWAYS even to the end of the world?

Certainly so. Now lets look at the context of where he said it.

28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Yes there it is!

It is in the very heart of the great commission. And it is expressly linked to the learning and obedience to his commandments! Awesome!

Is this "works salvation"? Or is simply salvation as taught by Jesus?

Jesus said the work of God is to believe him. That means to walk by faith in his word. We are truly saved by faith.

Faith is believing Jesus.

Now what did he say about his commandments again?

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I agree. And as Jesus is the same God that He was in the Old Testament, His command "Be ye holy for I am holy is still the same today. This is why every facet of our lives should be closely examined.
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I agree. And as Jesus is the same God that He was in the Old Testament, His command "Be ye holy for I am holy is still the same today. This is why every facet of our lives should be closely examined.
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