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10-02-2010, 12:29 PM
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GC in houston no free ride - did jesus charge
If you want to go to general conference , i think is is 15 bucks a head. Does this mean if your not in the chips you cant go.
I realize there is over head, but what every happened to faith . we are in the worse economy and more people out of work than in 80 years, seems like lower over head, and free to get in would let more struggling familys in and enjoy gods spirit.
Seeems like everything is money. UPCI website is filled with places to buy and spend, any help is in fine print and burried away. A few yrs ago, UPCI spent 200k for a one day add in USA today newspaper for pentcost sunday, did anyone feel the results. they can aford 200k one day news paper add, but can not afford to let people in church without charging per person.
Do other movments charge for church services?
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10-02-2010, 12:54 PM
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Re: GC in houston no free ride - did jesus charge
Keep in mind you get what you pay for. I went to one GC service in Ohio. I thank God I didn't have to pay for that service.
On the other hand, it $15 bucks isn't too much. It's not a big money maker. Just enough to pay for the use of the facilities. If you think $15 bucks is worth it, go for it. If not, don't go.
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10-02-2010, 12:59 PM
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Re: GC in houston no free ride - did jesus charge
This building charges a very large rent. Take it up with them.
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10-02-2010, 01:14 PM
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Re: GC in houston no free ride - did jesus charge
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Originally Posted by areyourucky
If you want to go to general conference , i think is is 15 bucks a head. Does this mean if your not in the chips you cant go.
I realize there is over head, but what every happened to faith . we are in the worse economy and more people out of work than in 80 years, seems like lower over head, and free to get in would let more struggling familys in and enjoy gods spirit.
Seeems like everything is money. UPCI website is filled with places to buy and spend, any help is in fine print and burried away. A few yrs ago, UPCI spent 200k for a one day add in USA today newspaper for pentcost sunday, did anyone feel the results. they can aford 200k one day news paper add, but can not afford to let people in church without charging per person.
Do other movments charge for church services?
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Did Jesus Charge. Jesus never held a General Conference. So the question is a logical fallacy.
The UPCI has been "charging" for years so to speak but involuntary. Apparently there aren't enough faithful givers to give more than their measly dollar bill so they now have to charge.
Yes believe it or not but it costs a LOT of money to rent out a huge huge Conf building, pay for use of electric and their sound systems, lighting, video and all the crew that makes it go not to mention those that clean up after the messy ones that leave their trash behind.
Things cost money and the UPCI is not over running with cash
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-02-2010, 01:20 PM
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Re: GC in houston no free ride - did jesus charge
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Did Jesus Charge. Jesus never held a General Conference. So the question is a logical fallacy.
The UPCI has been "charging" for years so to speak but involuntary. Apparently there aren't enough faithful givers to give more than their measly dollar bill so they now have to charge.
Yes believe it or not but it costs a LOT of money to rent out a huge huge Conf building, pay for use of electric and their sound systems, lighting, video and all the crew that makes it go not to mention those that clean up after the messy ones that leave their trash behind.
Things cost money and the UPCI is not over running with cash
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These large centers have vendor contracts and the guest/lessee has to pay union electricians to set up electric for the booths, set up displays, do the sound and video. You don't bring your buddies in and do all your own work.
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10-02-2010, 01:26 PM
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Re: GC in houston no free ride - did jesus charge
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These large centers have vendor contracts and the guest/lessee has to pay union electricians to set up electric for the booths, set up displays, do the sound and video. You don't bring your buddies in and do all your own work.
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That's true
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-02-2010, 01:56 PM
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Re: GC in houston no free ride - did jesus charge
Jesus has always been more expensive.
GC asks for $15.00.
Jesus asks for your life.
Granted, Jesus gives you infinitely more bang for your buck, but when you compare the costs... ?
Well you do the math.
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10-02-2010, 02:11 PM
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Re: GC in houston no free ride - did jesus charge
Every other conference we go to charges and trust me, it's always way more than $15. I have paid $300 to go to conferences before. $15 is nothing in today's world.
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10-02-2010, 03:49 PM
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Re: GC in houston no free ride - did jesus charge
I hate the idea. If you have to charge people to get in, thats ridiculous. Maybe they should open the consession stands and sell nachos and hot dogs to the faithful.
Maybe my church should charge $10/head at the door (plus offerings), after all, we've got bills too. We can give a deal, one months services for $25. Or 10% off your tithes for new members. Maybe we could do seat/pew licences like professional football stadiums. I mean after all, its for a good cause right?
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10-02-2010, 04:08 PM
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Re: GC in houston no free ride - did jesus charge
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Did Jesus Charge. Jesus never held a General Conference. So the question is a logical fallacy.
The UPCI has been "charging" for years so to speak but involuntary. Apparently there aren't enough faithful givers to give more than their measly dollar bill so they now have to charge.
Yes believe it or not but it costs a LOT of money to rent out a huge huge Conf building, pay for use of electric and their sound systems, lighting, video and all the crew that makes it go not to mention those that clean up after the messy ones that leave their trash behind.
Things cost money and the UPCI is not over running with cash
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"Jesus never held a General Conference." Exactly.
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