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09-29-2010, 01:24 PM
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Testing 9/11 Conspiracies
I offered this in another thread; those that are conspiracy minded to take their best evidences, one at a time,for testing.
If you believe there is merit to these things then there should be no fear in testing them. Please, not three pages of unsubstantiated claims or names. One at a time, your best with evidence and support like a link to a web page.
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09-29-2010, 01:35 PM
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Re: Testing 9/11 Conspiracies
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09-29-2010, 01:43 PM
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Re: Testing 9/11 Conspiracies
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
I offered this in another thread; those that are conspiracy minded to take their best evidences, one at a time,for testing.
If you believe there is merit to these things then there should be no fear in testing them. Please, not three pages of unsubstantiated claims or names. One at a time, your best with evidence and support like a link to a web page.
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Prax,
Although I find your idea interesting, it sounds very time consuming. Perhaps someone will take you up on it. If not, I suggest you look up some of the claims on 911 sites that ask for reinvestigation and try to say there is no need for reinvestigation. Perhaps that would work better.
I would like to point out also that, asking for a reinvestigation is not the same thing as believing there is a conspiracy. It is simply saying let's get all the facts on the table before we make up our minds.
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09-29-2010, 08:07 PM
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Re: Testing 9/11 Conspiracies
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Prax,
Although I find your idea interesting, it sounds very time consuming. Perhaps someone will take you up on it. If not, I suggest you look up some of the claims on 911 sites that ask for reinvestigation and try to say there is no need for reinvestigation. Perhaps that would work better.
I would like to point out also that, asking for a reinvestigation is not the same thing as believing there is a conspiracy. It is simply saying let's get all the facts on the table before we make up our minds.
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As I said in the other thread, I already did look them up. That's why I don't believe they hold water plus most of them have been debunked by experts in several fiends
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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09-29-2010, 09:13 PM
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Re: Testing 9/11 Conspiracies
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As I said in the other thread, I already did look them up. That's why I don't believe they hold water plus most of them have been debunked by experts in several fiends
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Okay well, I'm not going to spend the time researching the issue for others, posting websites, names, organizations etc. I know how fast these things can polarize too, going from me simply keeping an open mind to accusations of me pushing conspiracy theories and wearing of tin foil hats. So, that is why I am not willing to invest the time. I would like to see you do it though, since you seem interested. I have spent my own personal time long enough to keep an open mind about the issue.
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09-29-2010, 11:41 PM
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Re: Testing 9/11 Conspiracies
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Okay well, I'm not going to spend the time researching the issue for others, posting websites, names, organizations etc. I know how fast these things can polarize too, going from me simply keeping an open mind to accusations of me pushing conspiracy theories and wearing of tin foil hats. So, that is why I am not willing to invest the time. I would like to see you do it though, since you seem interested. I have spent my own personal time long enough to keep an open mind about the issue.
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09-30-2010, 07:20 AM
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Re: Testing 9/11 Conspiracies
Personally, I think something is "wrong" with what happened on 9/11. I believe there are elements to this that we don't know. As for a "conspiracy"... I'd not call it a conspiracy. But I do think the government knew more prior to the attacks than they are telling us.
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09-30-2010, 08:17 AM
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Re: Testing 9/11 Conspiracies
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Personally, I think something is "wrong" with what happened on 9/11. I believe there are elements to this that we don't know. As for a "conspiracy"... I'd not call it a conspiracy. But I do think the government knew more prior to the attacks than they are telling us.
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Are you saying the government could have prevented them and didn't?
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09-30-2010, 09:41 AM
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Re: Testing 9/11 Conspiracies
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Are you saying the government could have prevented them and didn't?
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How could anyone possibly know for sure?
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09-30-2010, 10:43 AM
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Re: Testing 9/11 Conspiracies
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How could anyone possibly know for sure?
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How can anyone know for sure that you are a woman? Or even a human being? How can anyone know for sure that George Washington was our first president? How can anyone know anything "for sure"?
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