New Audio at EF

JN Anderson · #1 06-22-2010, 09:57 AM

Last night I posted the .mp3 for the dialogue Bro. Wayne Lawhorn had with Ergun Caner at Liberty University. If any is interested in this you can access it here.

The full debate of Roger Perkins and Glen Burt is also available. I have also added some good audio from Bro's David Bernard, Rodney Shaw and Jorge Medina. All audio is arranged by category, e.g. Debate Audio, Evidential Faith Apologetics, and Evidential Faith Doctrinal Apologetics.

My desire is to provide a resource for those interested in advancing Oneness Pentecostalism. I pray it can be of some use.

Jason B · #2 06-22-2010, 07:33 PM

JNA, what is the topic of the dialouge?

I listened to the Perkins/Burt debate on Saturday, good stuff. I agree with Burt (though I personally baptize invoking the name of Jesus). But I thought Perkins presented the better case. If doctrine was based on who made the better argument, that would be "score one for the pentecostals." But, alas, its not, and really its better for our sakes, because most of the debates I've seen or heard don't normally favor us. I think this one and the Cook/Bernard ones are the only two I can think of where it seemed the OP's came out favorably.

I haven't listened to the debate on music, not quite as interesting a topic.
I eventually probably will.

I would be interested in a Perkins/Burt debate on the Godhead since Burt mentioned two or three times he believed in "three seperate beings" in the godhead.

(I thought trinitarians didn't really believe that, and it was oneness slander, right?

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Any chance of the latter?

JN Anderson · #3 06-23-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

JNA, what is the topic of the dialouge?

I listened to the Perkins/Burt debate on Saturday, good stuff. I agree with Burt (though I personally baptize invoking the name of Jesus). But I thought Perkins presented the better case. If doctrine was based on who made the better argument, that would be "score one for the pentecostals." But, alas, its not, and really its better for our sakes, because most of the debates I've seen or heard don't normally favor us. I think this one and the Cook/Bernard ones are the only two I can think of where it seemed the OP's came out favorably.

I haven't listened to the debate on music, not quite as interesting a topic.
I eventually probably will.

I would be interested in a Perkins/Burt debate on the Godhead since Burt mentioned two or three times he believed in "three seperate beings" in the godhead.

(I thought trinitarians didn't really believe that, and it was oneness slander, right?

)

Any chance of the latter?

Some have been but there are others out there now. Bernard vs. Carpenter (Asbury Theo. Sem) is good. There are going to be some debate in Lufkin,Tx in 2011 on the Godhead and baptism. Myself and Roger Perkins will be doing those. We are planning other stuff as well.

I am sorry you take Burt's view. I moderated the debate and feel his position was pure obfuscation. The Dialogue with Lawhorn and Caner is about Oneness Pentecostalism, e.g. Oneness, New Birth, etc.

ThePastorsCoach · #4 06-23-2010, 11:42 AM

If you want to advance Oneness Pentecostalism - Why don't you get off the computer and go show love to somebody and teach a Bible Study and lead them to repentance, baptize them in water and pray them through to the Holy Ghost!
You and your bunch are full of hot air and words - all words and no results.
Endless rhetoric and doctrinal disputes over words and the world goes to hell while you sit and play at a computer.
I do not believe for one second that you believe or live Acts 2:38 or you would practice it.

Pressing-On · #5 06-23-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

If you want to advance Oneness Pentecostalism - Why don't you get off the computer and go show love to somebody and teach a Bible Study and lead them to repentance, baptize them in water and pray them through to the Holy Ghost!
You and your bunch are full of hot air and words - all words and no results.
Endless rhetoric and doctrinal disputes over words and the world goes to hell while you sit and play at a computer.
I do not believe for one second that you believe or live Acts 2:38 or you would practice it.

How rude!!!! I do find it hard to believe you are actually nice in person, as you have claimed to be.

ThePastorsCoach · #6 06-23-2010, 12:03 PM

Well, These guys make all these claims and then want to slam me for trying to win the lost and I get tired of it.

Jason B · #7 06-23-2010, 07:32 PM

ab,give me a break! you are full of yourself. give God the glory and repent of your arrogance and pride

Jason B · #8 06-23-2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Well, These guys make all these claims and then want to slam me for trying to win the lost and I get tired of it.

spoken like a juvenille.

"well these guys"

pelathais · #9 06-23-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

If you want to advance Oneness Pentecostalism - Why don't you get off the computer and go show love to somebody and teach a Bible Study and lead them to repentance, baptize them in water and pray them through to the Holy Ghost!
You and your bunch are full of hot air and words - all words and no results.
Endless rhetoric and doctrinal disputes over words and the world goes to hell while you sit and play at a computer.
I do not believe for one second that you believe or live Acts 2:38 or you would practice it.

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Well, These guys make all these claims and then want to slam me for trying to win the lost and I get tired of it.

What claims did JN make in "slamming" you? Is this really fair? I stuck up for you on the "Kicked off AMF" thread, even while you continued to be rather angry in your presentation.

JN's ministry helps to prepare folks to do what you've suggested. I don't see everything quite his way, but I do appreciate his demeanor and his Christian approach to dialog. I also agree with you you've said the picky details where I disagree with JN are not really important issues affecting a soul's salvation anyhow.

Lighten up, Bro. There's plenty to be righteously angry about in this world. I don't see how jumping JN's case for something he's never done fits into the category of "righteous anger" though. It's more like being unfair and falsely accusing.

There are people who have been unfair to you, but JN's not in that crowd.

ThePastorsCoach · #10 06-24-2010, 10:13 AM

I apologize to Brother Anderson and to the rest of you. If I had it to do over - I would never joined AMF or posted what I did on this tread. I am sorry for the offense. If I knew how to delete the post I made on here, I would.
Again, I am sincerely apologetic and will try to do better.
Wayne Pugh