Is Jesus In The Godhead Or....

Sam · #1 05-23-2010, 08:41 PM

Attached as a pdf file is a booklet by Gordon Magee titled, Is Jesus In The Godhead Or Is The Godhead In Jesus?

This is some of his explanation/teaching on "the Godhead."

If I remember correctly, this book was at one time distributed through the UPC Publishing House.

Apocrypha · #2 05-23-2010, 09:34 PM

thanks for sharing

ManOfWord · #3 05-23-2010, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

Attached as a pdf file is a booklet by Gordon Magee titled, Is Jesus In The Godhead Or Is The Godhead In Jesus?

This is some of his explanation/teaching on "the Godhead."

If I remember correctly, this book was at one time distributed through the UPC Publishing House.

You're right, Sam, it was. I have a few copies!

seekerman · #4 05-23-2010, 10:03 PM

Both.

Apocrypha · #5 05-24-2010, 12:14 AM

Reading through it now, he makes a great point I never thought of. In the gospels when Jesus was 12 and sitting in the Temple with the doctors and lawyers... in effect he was sitting in his own House and Temple (if you factor in his divinity). Thats some trippy late night theology there.

On page 11-12.

If we had been alive at the time when Luke had written his
gospel story, and if we had gone to Luke and said, “Tell us,
please, Dr. Luke, whom did Joseph and Mary find that day in
the temple?” then he would have said, “Why, they found the
twelve-year-old boy Jesus.”

But another voice has also spoken—the Old Testament
prophet Malachi—and he has told us who was found in the
temple that day: “Behold, I will send my messenger [John
the Baptist], and he shall prepare the way before me: and
the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple”
(Malachi 3:1).

Malachi said that the twelve-year-old growing boy found in
the temple was none other than Jehovah Himself. That is a wonderful
thought! That ornate temple, that beautiful magnificent
temple, actually belonged to a twelve-year-old boy sitting in the
midst of those learned doctors, hearing them and asking them
questions.

Sam · #6 05-24-2010, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Apocrypha

Reading through it now, he makes a great point I never thought of. In the gospels when Jesus was 12 and sitting in the Temple with the doctors and lawyers... in effect he was sitting in his own House and Temple (if you factor in his divinity). Thats some trippy late night theology there.

On page 11-12.

If we had been alive at the time when Luke had written his
gospel story, and if we had gone to Luke and said, “Tell us,
please, Dr. Luke, whom did Joseph and Mary find that day in
the temple?” then he would have said, “Why, they found the
twelve-year-old boy Jesus.”

But another voice has also spoken—the Old Testament
prophet Malachi—and he has told us who was found in the
temple that day: “Behold, I will send my messenger [John
the Baptist], and he shall prepare the way before me: and
the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple”
(Malachi 3:1).

Malachi said that the twelve-year-old growing boy found in
the temple was none other than Jehovah Himself. That is a wonderful
thought! That ornate temple, that beautiful magnificent
temple, actually belonged to a twelve-year-old boy sitting in the
midst of those learned doctors, hearing them and asking them
questions.

yeppers.
That 12 year old youth sitting there was Jehovah, the LORD-God for whom the Temple had been built.

According to Malachi 3:1 the boy there was not only the Lord God, He was also the Angel/Messenger of YHWH, the One known as the Logos or Memra, the way the invisible God was historically seen and interacted with in the Old Testament.

Praxeas · #7 05-24-2010, 01:47 AM

This book makes some great points, however it tends towards a nestorian/unitarian view

jfrog · #8 05-24-2010, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

yeppers.
That 12 year old youth sitting there was Jehovah, the LORD-God for whom the Temple had been built.

According to Malachi 3:1 the boy there was not only the Lord God, He was also the Angel/Messenger of YHWH, the One known as the Logos or Memra, the way the invisible God was historically seen and interacted with in the Old Testament.

Malachi 3:1 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the LORD, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.

Malachi 3:2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

It seems a stretch to say that is a prophecy about Jesus' earthly ministry at all. (When Jesus appeared was it as a refiner's fire or did they delight in him?)

Sam · #9 05-24-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

... (When Jesus appeared was it as a refiner's fire or did they delight in him?)

yes

mfblume · #10 05-24-2010, 11:48 AM

I have not checked it out n this file yet, but Magee originally had the ANGEL OF GOD doctrine in that book, which the UPC removed later. This is the belief that the Angel of God was a consistent manifestation in the physical of God, like Michael the Disciple believes, became the Word of God made flesh in the New Testament.