Apostolic Friends Forum
Tab Menu 1
Go Back   Apostolic Friends Forum > The Fellowship Hall > Fellowship Hall
Facebook

Notices

Fellowship Hall The place to go for Fellowship & Fun!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-05-2010, 06:34 PM
EA's Avatar
EA EA is offline
>>Primitive Pentecostal<<


 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,892
What is our Role in Salvation?

What's our role in salvation?

Are we the saved, or the savior?

Yes, it's a rhetorical question.

I believe a huge problem in all strains of Christianity that flow from the Wesleyan Holiness movement is a skewed view of our role in the salvation process. There seems to be an idea that we somehow "help" God do the work.

This is particularly evident in the Oneness Pentecostal notion that it's "better to be safe than sorry." I see this as nothing more than unbelief and legalism. God's word is plain. It's clear. No one should threaten believers with Hell over standards that are not clearly based in scripture.

"Better to be safe than sorry" is an insult to God. It creates an atmosphere of fear and confusion that leads to unnecessary yokes. It fosters a works-based, humanistic view of salvation. It replaces the grace of Jesus with doctrines of men.

Obey the Word. That's the only safe way to live, and you'll be sorry if you don't do it.
__________________
The world has lost the power to blush over its vice; the Church has lost her power to weep over it.

Leonard Ravenhill
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-05-2010, 06:39 PM
Michael The Disciple's Avatar
Michael The Disciple Michael The Disciple is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 14,649
Re: What is our Role in Salvation?

Quote:
Obey the Word. That's the only safe way to live, and you'll be sorry if you don't do it.
Amen.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-05-2010, 06:53 PM
Sister Alvear's Avatar
Sister Alvear Sister Alvear is offline
Sister Alvear


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Brazil, SA
Posts: 27,031
Re: What is our Role in Salvation?

I am deeply grateful for the mercy and grace of our Lord...The Bible says HE bought the church with His own blood...I just want to walk worthly of the great price He paid for my salvation.
__________________
Monies to help us may be sent to P.O. Box 797, Jonesville, La 71343.

If it is for one of our direct needs please mark it on the check.
Facebook Janice LaVaun Taylor Alvear
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-05-2010, 07:15 PM
Hoovie's Avatar
Hoovie Hoovie is offline
Supercalifragilisticexpiali...


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 19,197
Re: What is our Role in Salvation?

Any notion that we can somehow secure the work of the cross through good works is a blockade to the very GIFT we claim.
__________________
"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005

I am a firm believer in the Old Paths

Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945

"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-05-2010, 07:25 PM
pelathais's Avatar
pelathais pelathais is offline
Accepts all friends requests


 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 13,609
Re: What is our Role in Salvation?

Jesus saves.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-05-2010, 07:47 PM
Praxeas's Avatar
Praxeas Praxeas is offline
Go Dodgers!


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 45,787
Re: What is our Role in Salvation?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Edward Anglin View Post
What's our role in salvation?

Are we the saved, or the savior?

Yes, it's a rhetorical question.

I believe a huge problem in all strains of Christianity that flow from the Wesleyan Holiness movement is a skewed view of our role in the salvation process. There seems to be an idea that we somehow "help" God do the work.

This is particularly evident in the Oneness Pentecostal notion that it's "better to be safe than sorry." I see this as nothing more than unbelief and legalism. God's word is plain. It's clear. No one should threaten believers with Hell over standards that are not clearly based in scripture.

"Better to be safe than sorry" is an insult to God. It creates an atmosphere of fear and confusion that leads to unnecessary yokes. It fosters a works-based, humanistic view of salvation. It replaces the grace of Jesus with doctrines of men.

Obey the Word. That's the only safe way to live, and you'll be sorry if you don't do it.
You still here?
__________________
Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:


  1. There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
  2. The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
  6. The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-05-2010, 07:56 PM
freeatlast's Avatar
freeatlast freeatlast is offline
the ultracon


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: smack dab in da middle
Posts: 4,443
Re: What is our Role in Salvation?

Our role in salvation?

We are the recipients.

Our role in conversion/discipleship. That's our part after salvation.
__________________
God has lavished his love upon me.

Last edited by freeatlast; 02-05-2010 at 08:16 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-05-2010, 07:57 PM
Timmy's Avatar
Timmy Timmy is offline
Don't ask.


 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 24,212
Re: What is our Role in Salvation?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother David View Post
Jesus saves.
Saves whom?
__________________
Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty

More New Stuff in Timmy Talk!
My Countdown Counting down to: Rapture. Again.
Why am I not surprised?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-05-2010, 09:37 PM
Sam's Avatar
Sam Sam is offline
Jesus' Name Pentecostal


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: near Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 17,805
Re: What is our Role in Salvation?

Salvation is a gift to receive
not
a goal to achieve.

When David Maines (not sure of spelling) was a young man preaching in Illinois, an old Mennonite farmer told him, "Son, there are just 2 religions in this world -- doing and done."
__________________
Sam also known as Jim Ellis

Apostolic in doctrine
Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-05-2010, 10:11 PM
Michael The Disciple's Avatar
Michael The Disciple Michael The Disciple is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 14,649
Re: What is our Role in Salvation?

And yet consider this.

25: And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them,
26: If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
27: And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:26

Yes we DO have a part.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
10 Thoughts on the Role of the Bible in America U376977 Fellowship Hall 0 06-09-2009 09:55 PM
The role of an apostle... Barb Fellowship Hall 25 11-13-2007 04:08 PM
The Role Of The Man! jwharv Deep Waters 29 07-03-2007 11:40 PM
The Role Of The Holy Spirit In The Old And New Testaments? Scott Hutchinson Deep Waters 12 05-13-2007 09:56 PM

 
User Infomation
Your Avatar

Latest Threads
- by jfrog
- by Salome
- by Amanah

Help Support AFF!

Advertisement




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:30 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.