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Old 12-07-2009, 03:49 PM
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The Ten Lost Tribes of Israel: Your Thoughts?

There are many theories regarding the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel. What are some of your thoughts on this?

Here's a map that details where the tribe of Dan may have traveled and settled:
http://www.biblestudy.org/maps/where...large-map.html
I'm finding this study rather interesting. Please share your thoughts and personal opinions.

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Old 12-07-2009, 04:56 PM
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Re: The Ten Lost Tribes of Israel: Your Thoughts?

I don't have any thoughts, I've never studied it, but I'd be interested in reading your thoughts.
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They moved to the new world and became the proto-mormons
They went away with the space aliens, and shortly they will return and tell us the truth...

yep. that's where they went.
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To be an Israelite requires more than Genealogy. They had to continue the rite of circumcision amongst all males, and if that was not done, they're gone.
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Re: The Ten Lost Tribes of Israel: Your Thoughts?

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They moved to the new world and became the proto-mormons
They went away with the space aliens, and shortly they will return and tell us the truth...

yep. that's where they went.
Hey. don't go lumping the space aliens with those morman folks.........
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There are many theories regarding the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel. What are some of your thoughts on this?

Here's a map that details where the tribe of Dan may have traveled and settled:
http://www.biblestudy.org/maps/where...large-map.html
I'm finding this study rather interesting. Please share your thoughts and personal opinions.

God bless.
I don't understand twelve tribes when did we loose 10 tribes
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I don't understand twelve tribes when did we loose 10 tribes
It's called British Israelism or Anglo Israelism.
One idea is that when Assyria carried away the northern 10 tribes they were disbursed and wandered to Europe. The tribe of Dan eventually settled in Denmark (Dan mark). Ephraim and Manasseh eventually settled in England and the United States. One idea is that the light-skinned Aryans are the 10 lost tribes and therefore God's real people.

Another idea is that the two tribes in the south (Judah and Benjamin) were carried to Babylon and when they came back they were mingled with the Babylonians physically, intellectually, and religiously. Those mingled mongrels then mingled with dark skinned people who had moved into the land and dark skinned Jews of today are not really Jews, they just took that name from Judea.
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God said He would scatter Israel through the nations. He would sift them as
corn in a sieve (sifter) Sift them as cornmeal.

"For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth." Amos 9:9

1 King 14:15-16 For the LORD shall smite Israel, as a reed is shaken in the water, and he shall root up Israel out of this good land, which he gave to their fathers, and shall scatter them beyond the river, because they have made their groves, provoking the LORD to anger. 16) And he shall give Israel up because of the sins of Jeroboam, who did sin, and who made Israel to sin.

Micah 5:1-3
1 Now gather thyself in troops, O daughter of troops: he hath laid siege against us: they shall smite the judge of Israel with a rod upon the cheek.

2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

3 Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth: then the remnant of his brethren shall return unto the children of Israel.

It seems God gave Israel up UNTIL....Jesus came!

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It's called British Israelism or Anglo Israelism.
One idea is that when Assyria carried away the northern 10 tribes they were disbursed and wandered to Europe. The tribe of Dan eventually settled in Denmark (Dan mark). Ephraim and Manasseh eventually settled in England and the United States. One idea is that the light-skinned Aryans are the 10 lost tribes and therefore God's real people.

Another idea is that the two tribes in the south (Judah and Benjamin) were carried to Babylon and when they came back they were mingled with the Babylonians physically, intellectually, and religiously. Those mingled mongrels then mingled with dark skinned people who had moved into the land and dark skinned Jews of today are not really Jews, they just took that name from Judea.
Even if they did, if they did not continue in law with circumcision and the whole bit, they are nothing concerning Israel's tribes.
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Re: The Ten Lost Tribes of Israel: Your Thoughts?

I would like to consider the promises issued to Ephraim and Manasseh,

"And Israel beheld Joseph's sons, and said, Who are these?
"And Joseph said unto his father, They are my sons, whom God hath given me in this place. And he
said, Bring them, I pray thee, unto me, and I will bless them.
"And Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid it upon Ephraim's head, who was the younger, and
his left hand upon Manasseh's head, guiding his hands wittingly; for Manasseh was the firstborn.
" And he blessed Joseph, and said, God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the
God which fed me all my life long unto this day,
" The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them,
and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of
the earth.

And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon
his head.
" And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and
he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall
become a multitude of nations.

" And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim
and as Manasseh: and he set Ephraim before Manasseh" (Gen 48:8-9,14-16, 18-20)
In the above verses we read how Manasseh and Ephraim were blessed by Israel. Israel blessed them and established that they both should be called by his name, Israel. Next we read that Israel blessed the Joseph’s sons. Israel places his right hand (the greater blessing) upon the youngest Ephraim and his left hand (the lesser blessing) upon Manasseh (the first born). The troubled Joseph because Manasseh was the first born. The promises were as follows:

-Manasseh would become a great people (a singular nation).
-Ephraim would become a multitude of nations (plural).

Take into consideration what was promised in 1 Chronicles 5:2….
"JUDAH [Father of the Jews] prevailed above his brethren, and of him
came the chief ruler [Jesus Christ, see Micah 5:2]; but the BIRTHRIGHT WAS JOSEPH'S [and passed to Ephraim and Manasseh]."
This prophetically shows that upon Judah were the Messianic and rulership prophecies, however the birthright was promised upon Joseph. What was the birthright given to Joseph? The birthright was essentially the promises that God had given to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, regarding national inheritance. They were to become a nation and a company of nations. The promise of great material wealth, world power, possession of lands all over the world, and the possession of the "Gates of their enemies," (Gen 22:17; 26:3-5, 49:22-26).

Most today attribute these blessings to the Jewish people in general. But as one can see, this isn’t so. It’s important to know which blessings belong to whom. While grace and Messiah was promised through Judah, national inheritance and political power was promised to Israel. They are not the same. You see, the Jewish people in the land of Israel today are descendants of Judah and Benjamin. These were taken captive by Babylon and returned to their homeland. But the ten Northern tribes were captured and assimilated by Assyria. The question remains… Is God true to his promises? If so, when did the descendants of Israel (namely Ephraim and Manasseh) receive the blessings promised to them?

Some believe that knowing the blessings of Ephraim and Manasseh is a key to understanding and unlocking prophecy. Some have greatly misunderstood this idea. Some have claimed racial superiority or selective salvation based on ethnicity. Let’s make this clear… there isn’t any room for racism of any sort in the Kingdom of God. Salvation has appeared unto all men through Jesus Christ our Lord. However, covenantal promises cannot be ignored. These don’t establish any superiority or preference in the eyes of God… but it does answer some questions regarding prophecy. The key to this understanding is making a biblical distinction between Israel and Judah. Just as in the Bible, the Jews of today are not Israel. Israel is a separate body of people.

For example, many today wonder why the United States and the great Western powers of the previous 200 years aren’t mentioned in prophecy. Or why the ascendency of the British Empire and the English speaking world isn’t alluded to in prophecy. Is it possible that yes, the English speaking world is indeed mentioned in prophecy? Not as a geographical or geopolitical nation… but as a people? Some have proposed that perhaps the decedents of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel eventually settled in Western Europe (namely Great Britain and the Isles). Those who propose this believe that the prophecies of Ephraim (that from him would come a multitude of nations) was fulfilled in Great Britain. The British Empire spread far and wide around the globe. However, in her wake we have Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and commonwealths all around the world. All are relatively wealthy and powerful politically. Out of these great nations we see a single nation that has arisen to greatness… the United States. Both the United States and Britain (along with her commonwealths) possess the majority of the world’s wealth. Both possess military superiority. Both possess harbors, canals, and strategic locations (the gates of their enemies). Both are the largest contributors to the spread of Christianity on the planet.

This doesn’t mean that the United States and Great Britain are ethnically superior. However, it does establish our place in prophecy. We know from Scripture that the final Antichrist will wage war with Israel. This would mean that the scope of the Antichrist’s warfare isn’t limited to a sliver of land in the Middle East, but to the toppling of the entire Western world. It also answers why the decedents of Ishmael are also striving so hard with the West and are seeking our demise. Lastly it explains the prophetic connection between the United States and Britain with the modern nation state of Israel. If the United States and Britain are indeed Ephraim and Manasseh, the Jewish people of Israel are our brethren. It is more than political; it is our duty to protect them. The entire prophetic drama unfolds around the United States, Great Britain, and Israel.

So, this is what a good friend of mine from Tipp City explained to me. I found it interesting.
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