Glenn Beck mocks JN baptism

[MarcBee]

On Glenn Beck radio show today, he imitates wild-eyed preacher fanatic voice and says, "C'm 'ere, I'm going to baptize you in Jesus' Name and cast those demons out of you." I think his tone even emphasized Jesus Name, so I bolded it like I think I heard it, but all went by quickly.

The larger context was to mock extremists, to appeal to moderate Democrats, as to say, "I understand you're not like this." (Almost a quote.) So, JN baptizing preachers weren't being specifically mocked, but used as emblematic of mock-worthy extremists.

So, are JN folk becoming the 21st Century code for "nutjob?" In the previous decades, I recall the code joke was "holy rollers." But havent' heard that term lately. Thanks, Glenn, nice to learn who you Mormons regard as wacko.

[deltaguitar]

Originally Posted by MarcBee

On Glenn Beck radio show today, he imitates wild-eyed preacher fanatic voice and says, "C'm 'ere, I'm going to baptize you in Jesus' Name and cast those demons out of you." I think his tone even emphasized Jesus Name, so I bolded it like I think I heard it, but all went by quickly.

The larger context was to mock extremists, to appeal to moderate Democrats, as to say, "I understand you're not like this." (Almost a quote.) So, JN baptizing preachers weren't being specifically mocked, but used as emblematic of mock-worthy extremists.

So, are JN folk becoming the 21st Century code for "nutjob?" In the previous decades, I recall the code joke was "holy rollers." But havent' heard that term lately. Thanks, Glenn, nice to learn who you Mormons regard as wacko.

Hmmm, I am not sure but I think mormons preach Acts 2:38 and John 3:5 the same way the UPC does except for the speaking in tongues.

Here is a quote from Mormon.org

Jesus Christ taught that we must be baptised by immersion. He set the example Himself by being baptised to “fulfill all righteousness” (Matthew 3:15).

We are baptised for the remission of sins. (Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16). We are also baptised to become members of the Church of Jesus Christ, and to enter the kingdom of God (John 3:5).

Through the ordinance of baptism, we make a promise, called a covenant, with God. We promise to accept Christ, to become His followers, and to keep His commandments to the end of our lives. In return, our Heavenly Father promises to forgive our sins and let us return to live with Him, provided we keep our covenants.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

Hmmm, I am not sure but I think mormons preach Acts 2:38 and John 3:5 the same way the UPC does except for the speaking in tongues.

Here is a quote from Mormon.org

Jesus Christ taught that we must be baptised by immersion. He set the example Himself by being baptised to “fulfill all righteousness” (Matthew 3:15).

We are baptised for the remission of sins. (Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16). We are also baptised to become members of the Church of Jesus Christ, and to enter the kingdom of God (John 3:5).

Through the ordinance of baptism, we make a promise, called a covenant, with God. We promise to accept Christ, to become His followers, and to keep His commandments to the end of our lives. In return, our Heavenly Father promises to forgive our sins and let us return to live with Him, provided we keep our covenants.

They baptize into the Trinity.

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

They baptize into the Trinity.

Strangley enough, a "text" in one of the books written by Joeseph Smith, specifically states batism is to be in Jesus name.

[MarcBee]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

Hmmm, I am not sure but I think mormons preach Acts 2:38 and John 3:5 the same way the UPC does except for the speaking in tongues.

Oh, baptizing into the same Jesus who walked around North America preaching to the "Indians?" The same Jesus who is a "spirit brother" of Lucifer?

Some summaries about some of their "scriptures."

<<
a. God came from a planet near a star named Kolob – (B of M Abraham 3:1-3)
b. God came here to Earth as a baby and grew into God (Teachings of the Prophet
Joseph Smith, J.F. Smith pp345-346; Life of Lorenzo Snow, Dr. Thomas Romney p46; Articles of Faith, James Talmage p430)
c. There are many gods and goddesses in the heavens (B of M Abraham 4:3)
d. Not 1 God in 3 persons but 3 gods with 1 purpose (Bruce Mckonkie, Mormon Doctrine, p576-577; Teaching of the Prophet Joeseph Smith, JF Smith p370)
e. Jesus is one of many ‘spirit sons’ of God (Mormon Doctrine, Bruce McConkie
p192,590; Gospel Principles, pp. 17-18)
f. Jesus and Lucifer are spirit brothers ( Mormon Doctrine, Bruce McConkie p192,590)
g. both offered plans, Lucifer’s was rejected, he rebelled (Gospel Through The Ages,
Milton Hunter p15; "Pearl of Great Price", Book of Moses 4:1-3)
h. Jesus’ plan was accepted and he came to Earth ("Pearl of Great Price", Book of
Moses 4:1-3)
i. God cannot create man because man’s spirit has always existed – (Doctrines and
Covenants 93:29; Abraham 3:22; Teachings of the prophet Joseph Smith, JF Smith p354)
j. Man has no beginning but grows from man into God – (see above references) +
Mormon Doctrine p321; D & C 132:20-21; Teachings of Prophet JS, p347, 374>>

Excerpted from http://www.truthforsaints.com/Mormonism/mormonism.html

[freeatlast]

From the section 49 of the Doctrines and Covenants of the LDS

13 aRepent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, according to the holy commandment, for the remission of sins;

[deltaguitar]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

They baptize into the Trinity.

I read a little bit more and I wasn't sure what they actually say during baptism.

They do teach Acts 2:38 for remission of sins AND baptism is being born of the water.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

Strangley enough, a "text" in one of the books written by Joeseph Smith, specifically states batism is to be in Jesus name.

That is true I have read it.

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

That is true I have read it.

but just like trinitarians, whose bibles tell them to babtize in Jesus name, they do call on the titles in their baptisms.

[Phil Stearns]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

but just like trinitarians, whose bibles tell them to baptize in Jesus name, they do call on the titles in their baptisms.

This is correct. Mormons have almost no beliefs in common with Apostolics.