Records of Obama settling Indonesian citizenship

[coadie]

Under Indonesian law, adoption before the age of six by an Indonesian male qualified a child for citizenship. According to Dreams from My Father, Obama was four when he met Lolo Soetoro; his mother married Soetoro shortly thereafter; and Obama was already registered for school when he and his mother relocated to Jakarta, where Soetoro was an oil-company executive and liaison to the Suharto government. That was in 1966, when Obama was five. Obama attended Indonesian elementary schools, which, in Suharto's police state, were generally reserved for citizens (and students were required to carry identity cards that matched student registration information).

We all know our adopted children are citizens. We also know they may not necessarily be natural Born Citizens.

Obama may still be a citizen of Indonesia. Reminds me of his dad. More than 1 wife at a time. He forgot to mention it. Has Obama forgotten to mention Indonesian citizenship?

I can see why he needed his passport records to experience a little cauterization. In fact the contract worker for the firm run by brenned whom he nominated for another Czar level post ran that company. Is there a better way to honor Brennen?

I believe it is our duty to learn the truth. Sure under penalty of perjury , he applied for a passport.

http://travel.state.gov/passport/for.../ds11_842.html

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/79955.pdf?

Gotta sign it under oath. BOTH parents must be present. How would his legal dad be there?

See why Stanley has a kid and drops an announcement in the paper? since daddio was a Brit citizen, she didn't want to have travel problems in/out of the U.S so she was smart to plop a birth announcement. there are 4 ways to get an HI birth certificate. Not many ways to get a passport.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...ate_and_t.html
Even this dubious left wing rag sees a story here.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...lYTVmZmU=&w=MA

Got all the Muslim worship stuff down
the candidate wistfully shared with New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof his memories of the muezzin’s Arabic call to prayer: “one of the prettiest sounds on earth at sunset.” Kristof marveled at the “first-rate accent” with which Obama was able to repeat its opening lines.

But dual citizenship allows dual religion. He went to Trinity so therefore he claims to have snagged Christianity.

We are facing a con man. He can change his story depending on who asks the question.

Twisp. What are Indonesian citizenship laws?
Has he formally renounced that full blown citizenship and give us dates and times if he did.

Historic

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

We all know our adopted children are citizens. We also know they may not necessarily be natural Born Citizens.

Obama may still be a citizen of Indonesia. Reminds me of his dad. More than 1 wife at a time. He forgot to mention it. Has Obama forgotten to mention Indonesian citizenship?

I can see why he needed his passport records to experience a little cauterization. In fact the contract worker for the firm run by brenned whom he nominated for another Czar level post ran that company. Is there a better way to honor Brennen?

I believe it is our duty to learn the truth. Sure under penalty of perjury , he applied for a passport.

http://travel.state.gov/passport/for.../ds11_842.html

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/79955.pdf?

Gotta sign it under oath. BOTH parents must be present. How would his legal dad be there?

See why Stanley has a kid and drops an announcement in the paper? since daddio was a Brit citizen, she didn't want to have travel problems in/out of the U.S so she was smart to plop a birth announcement. there are 4 ways to get an HI birth certificate. Not many ways to get a passport.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...ate_and_t.html
Even this dubious left wing rag sees a story here.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...lYTVmZmU=&w=MA

Got all the Muslim worship stuff down
the candidate wistfully shared with New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof his memories of the muezzin’s Arabic call to prayer: “one of the prettiest sounds on earth at sunset.” Kristof marveled at the “first-rate accent” with which Obama was able to repeat its opening lines.

But dual citizenship allows dual religion. He went to Trinity so therefore he claims to have snagged Christianity.

We are facing a con man. He can change his story depending on who asks the question.

Twisp. What are Indonesian citizenship laws?
Has he formally renounced that full blown citizenship and give us dates and times if he did.

Historic

Burden of proof is on the accuser. Have at it, prove to us he is not American.

[coadie]

Justice and Human Rights Minister Hamid Awaluddin said Wednesday that a ministerial decree would be issued this weekend to effect the implementation of the Citizenship Law passed in July.

He said the decree contained the mechanisms to apply for or pursue Indonesian citizenship, including granting Indonesian citizenship to offspring of transnational marriages and clarifying the status of Indonesians who have resided abroad for an extended period.

Included in the decree, he added, were the necessary forms and other technical requirements.

“A transnational marriage couple only need fill in the form to confirm their children’s citizenship. The form can be signed by either of the parents,” he said on the sidelines of a seminar.

Previously, children born of a foreign father and Indonesian mother automatically received his nationality, but the new law allows children of such unions to hold dual citizenship until they reach maturity at age 21. When the child turns 18, he or she has three years to choose the nationality of one of the parents.

Hamid said the forms would be available next week at Indonesian embassies and consulates abroad, enabling Indonesian-born people who were stripped of their citizenship to regain it.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

Burden of proof is on the accuser. Have at it, prove to us he is not American.

Your immature demands for "proof" are what we call red herrings

There was no accusation. You act like there was.
When normal people ask simple questions, a reflex response by con men is to gett all defensiive.

Twisp. What are Indonesian citizenship laws?

When people get all deceptive, they try to create a distraction. Blurting out a red herring is your style.

Now lighten up and help us by sharing your law results from Indonesia.

Snopes and factcheck are locals and can't help. (they have contracts with obama)

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

Your immature demands for "proof" are what we call red herrings

There was no accusation. You act like there was.
When normal people ask simple questions, a reflex response by con men is to gett all defensiive.





When people get all deceptive, they try to create a distraction. Blurting out a red herring is your style.

Now lighten up and help us by sharing your law results from Indonesia.

Snopes and factcheck are locals and can't help. (they have contracts with obama)

Actually, you have accused him of multiple things, so I was correct in labeling you as the accuser.

I have no question of his Indonesian citizenship. You are the one concerned with his Indonesian citizenship, therefore, you are the one that need to enlighten us with their citizenship laws. You have to prove that he was ever a citizen of Indonesia in the first place. Have fun. I know it will be for me, watching you run in circles. lol.

[coadie]

Are you saying he was not adopted by an Indonesian?

I agree that you are in need of enlightment but it would make you a stronger person if you learned how to seek your own enlightment

you are the one that need to enlighten us with their citizenship laws

Like this cup you are full of your own opinions and speculations. There is no room for enlightenment until after you empty your cup.


opposition to Hope and Change™ is starting to take its toll.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

Are you saying he was not adopted by an Indonesian?

I agree that you are in need of enlightment but it would make you a stronger person if you learned how to seek your own enlightment




Like this cup you are full of your own opinions and speculations. There is no room for enlightenment until after you empty your cup.


opposition to Hope and Change™ is starting to take its toll.

I'm saying that you should prove he was before alluding that he was.

I am well set with what I believe.

It is you that seems to be trying to convince yourself and others.

[Bowas]

Originally Posted by Twisp

Burden of proof is on the accuser. Have at it, prove to us he is not American.

Normally what you said is true, however, in this case, in that it is a constitutional requirement to be a US born leagal citizen, the proof falls on the person seeking the position.
It is kind of like needing a degree for a certain job and if I say I have one but don't produce one for my prospective employer to study for its valitiy, I cannot fall back and not produce one and say, "prove I don't have one" Same concept here.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Bowas

Normally what you said is true, however, in this case, in that it is a constitutional requirement to be a US born leagal citizen, the proof falls on the person seeking the position.
It is kind of like needing a degree for a certain job and if I say I have one but don't produce one for my prospective employer to study for its valitiy, I cannot fall back and not produce one and say, "prove I don't have one" Same concept here.

Kinda like buying a car Show me the title.

Don't want a story. Same with stolen car. Don't want a story, No title, no registration no insurance, It is grand theft auto.

Cops really don't care. Really don't care. Your point is good. No transcript, they get fired. All he shows is a fake from daily Kos that was shared with Factcheck, fight the smears and one other.

Every question they get tangled up in causes another question.

Since Stanley dunham was 17 and sleeping around, all we know is the dad had black in his lineage. Some claim the dad was Frank Marshall Davis. Who was also born in Kansas like Stanley Dunham. They could do blood test on an assortment of half siblings to find who was related.
I am far from convinced; Stanley was the mom and the dad may have been Frank who was also married at the time. Obama refers to Frank as his father.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

I'm saying that you should prove he was before alluding that he was.

I am well set with what I believe.
It is you that seems to be trying to convince yourself and others.

We would never question that.

Barry HopenchangeTM

Nebuchadnazzar demanded the type of adoration you show.

Professionally is seems appears to be an unhealthy attachment.

obama derangement syndrome