In counseling, the presenting problem is often not the primary problem
Passport breach March 21.
On April 8, 2008, Obama confessed to having taken a trip to Pakistan in 1981. Here is what Obama said - Jake Tapper was there:
"So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa --knowing the leaders is not important -- what I know is the people...I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college -- I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."
Tapper was surprised and said:
This last part -- a college trip to Pakistan -- was news to many of us who have been following the race closely. And it was odd that we hadn't hear about it before, given all the talk of Pakistan during this campaign.
Much speculation has been made about what national passport Obama used when he traveled to Pakistan in 1981.
So Obama confessed to this trip two weeks after his passport was tampered with.
Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and ruled of martial law. Millions of Afghan refugees were living in Pakistan, while the Afghan Mujahedeen operated from bases inside Pakistan in their war with the Soviets. One of the leaders that based his operation in Quetta, Pakistan was Usama Bin Laden (The Sheik).
Pakistan was on the banned travel list for US Citizens at the time and all non-Muslim visitors were not welcome unless sponsored by their embassy for official business. (more here)
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israelinsider reported Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fake Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same Daily Kos blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
There is one possibility, however, which alone might justify the risk that Obama and his campaign seems to be taking in putting forward the uncertified document image: Obama was not in fact born in Hawaii and may not be an American citizen at all, or at least not a "natural born citizen" as the Constitution defines the requirement for the nation's chief executive. Real original birth certificates, circa 1961, have all kinds of verifiable information that would confirm Obama's origins, or throw them into doubt should they be lacking.
According to published reports in Pakistan, Obama in 1981 also stayed at the home of a prominent politician, Ahmad Mian Soomro, in an upscale Karachi suburb, and went on a traditional partridge hunting trip north of Karachi. Soomro’s son, Muhammad Mian Soomro, is a senior politician who served as acting president before the appointment of President Asif Ali Zardari last September.
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What's strange is that Obama's own website FightTheSmears doesn't refute the widespread allegation that he entered Pakistan on an Indonesian passport
Obama is much more worried about his passport records and document trail than the COLB which he has kept hidden.
There is deception here and there are many people creating alibi's and "covering" for him. Many of the motives to cover deception are apparent and some are not so apparent.
Most of the amateurs that demand proof that they define do so because they are convinced "proof" as they define it has been destroyed or can be prevented.
Truth is far superior to "proof" Proof is important for alcoholics.
Obama is a very busy man.. He has no time for a court case because he is ruling the country and healing the economy. The one that spent trillions he voted to spend and millions get laid off.
To the point. He could have dealt with this 18 months ago when he was sitting in congress. He was in 3rd place. Now he can use time that he saves by not doing church.
So the point is time (busy busyness)is not a valid objection or excuse. There are no more Chryslers to sieze by reason of creating a distraction.
In counseling, the presenting problem is often not the primary problem
Passport breach March 21.
On April 8, 2008, Obama confessed to having taken a trip to Pakistan in 1981. Here is what Obama said - Jake Tapper was there:
"So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa --knowing the leaders is not important -- what I know is the people...I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college -- I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."
Tapper was surprised and said:
This last part -- a college trip to Pakistan -- was news to many of us who have been following the race closely. And it was odd that we hadn't hear about it before, given all the talk of Pakistan during this campaign.
Much speculation has been made about what national passport Obama used when he traveled to Pakistan in 1981.
So Obama confessed to this trip two weeks after his passport was tampered with.
Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and ruled of martial law. Millions of Afghan refugees were living in Pakistan, while the Afghan Mujahedeen operated from bases inside Pakistan in their war with the Soviets. One of the leaders that based his operation in Quetta, Pakistan was Usama Bin Laden (The Sheik).
Pakistan was on the banned travel list for US Citizens at the time and all non-Muslim visitors were not welcome unless sponsored by their embassy for official business. (more here)
There is one possibility, however, which alone might justify the risk that Obama and his campaign seems to be taking in putting forward the uncertified document image: Obama was not in fact born in Hawaii and may not be an American citizen at all, or at least not a "natural born citizen" as the Constitution defines the requirement for the nation's chief executive. Real original birth certificates, circa 1961, have all kinds of verifiable information that would confirm Obama's origins, or throw them into doubt should they be lacking.
According to published reports in Pakistan, Obama in 1981 also stayed at the home of a prominent politician, Ahmad Mian Soomro, in an upscale Karachi suburb, and went on a traditional partridge hunting trip north of Karachi. Soomro’s son, Muhammad Mian Soomro, is a senior politician who served as acting president before the appointment of President Asif Ali Zardari last September.
Obama is much more worried about his passport records and document trail than the COLB which he has kept hidden.
There is deception here and there are many people creating alibi's and "covering" for him. Many of the motives to cover deception are apparent and some are not so apparent.
Most of the amateurs that demand proof that they define do so because they are convinced "proof" as they define it has been destroyed or can be prevented.
Truth is far superior to "proof" Proof is important for alcoholics.
Please post a source to this. Unfortunately, your past misinformation has made you credibility zero.
Please post a source to this. Unfortunately, your past misinformation has made you credibility zero.
You still haven't explained how Obama told us he was born in Queens hospital in December and changed it just recently. He did lie.
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Wasn't it snopes lying on that?
For all the intelligence you claim to possess with those certificates on your wall, you aren't a very smart guy.
Or maybe you got those certificates where Obama got his and that's how you know all this information, huh?
Insults?
Which certificates? The Photoshopt birth certificates?
You still haven't explained how Obama told us he was born in Queens hospital in December and changed it just recently. He did lie.
Kapi'olani Medical Center
Is lying OK for Obama? Is it just the standard \Chitown B.S. Bogus Statements.
When are they going to solve the Donald Young Homicide?
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Any of you heard of Larry Bland, Nate Spencer, Donald Young, or Larry Sinclair?
All are homosexuals. Three are from Trinity United Church pastored by Obama's dear "uncle" Rev. Wright. Those three including Donald Young, the former choir director, are DEAD. They all died within 40 days of each other starting in November 2007. Shortly before their his death Young contacted Larry Sinclair by e-mail and cell phone. According to Sinclair, they discussed their sexual relationships with Obama. The three dead men were all shot execution style in the back of the head. Is this all coincidence? What do you think, really? At this point I don't know exactly what to think. But I feel very freaked out about this whole thing. Questions need to be asked. The MSM is negligent. They have a dog in the fight (election) and they don't want to him to lose. But this is getting scary.
This is very interesting.
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If Wright announced to his congregation in the morning that Donald Young was dead - hours before he was officially pronounced dead, you would think there would be more people interested in how he came to that conclusion, who told him, how did he know, who contacted him, who he was calling and who was calling him, etc.
Did the media treat the murders of Mary Jo Kopechne, Vince Foster, Marilyn Monroe and others - in the same way?
Larry Bland, like Donald Young, died as a result of multiple gunshot wounds in the month before Donald Young’s murder - the medical examiner pronounced him dead on November 17, 2007. Nate Spencer succumbed to HIV, “septicemia, pneumonia, HIV”, which was pronounced by the medical examiner on December 26, 2007.
If someone were really researching this, they would find out the medical examiner’s estimated time of death for Donald Young and Larry Bland, the numbers showing up on Obama and Wright’s telephone records could prove to be very interesting.
Either interesting, or would completely exonerate them from any involvement, although….it still leaves the allegations unanswered about Obama of a limo while sucking on a crack pipe. Maybe it’s time people started interviewing homosexuals who knew Donald Young; and who have said Obama is ‘on the down low”.
Simply stated; an alibi and opening the phone records up to the public or to an investigative reporter would either implicate them, or completely exonerate both of them and stop people from speculating.
As it stands now, it looks very odd….and the longer Obama and Axelrod remain silent on the issue, and the more hysterical the Obama bloggers get, the more it appears as though they are deliberately evading the truth.
These are real murders. Obama has devoted followers that make all the alibi's.
There is all kinds of dirty stuff printed in chicago that doesn't get printed elswhere.
What does snopes say? Factcheck?
I forgot. They filter and can't investigate.
Houston we have a problem.
In a single 40 day pewriod, 3 homosexuals involved in ministry are suddenly dead. 2 have their phone call records on obama cell phone. @ are shot in the back of the head.
Obama spinners out think tonight.
Light the topic is about some fishy activity re: Obama and his passport. If you can't handle a discussion, what can you deal with?
Is it fishy that Obama had never discussed trips and afger his passport is looked into, he talks about a trip to Pachystan.
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