"Jesus DID NOT die to give us...

[Jermyn Davidson]

the chance to earn our salvation."


What does this statement mean to you?
How do you understand it?
What are some of the implications of this statement?
Do you agree with those implications?

[GrowingPains]

Obedience to the cross. What does that mean to you?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by GrowingPains

Obedience to the cross. What does that mean to you?

Nope, I started this thread with questions, trying to solicit thoughts, opinions on those questions, based off of the title of this thread.

Please phrase your question in the form of a statement that conforms to the parameters of the questions posed, if you would be so kind.

[drummerboy_dave]

God is without flaw and perfect. Much to our bewilderment, He created a humanity that (without Him) is degrading and imperfect. In an awesomeness that we will never be able to understand, He gave each of us a free will. He furthermore, provided each of us a desire and the pathway to draw our way back to Him; although some do not recognize or acknowledge that desire.

Salvation centers on the cross. We are each free to recieve this provision or we can reject it. There are things that we all must do to be saved, the bible makes that clear; but there is also no way for us to "earn" our salvation. Otherwise, the cross would be unneccesary.

Oh, the depth of God and His word!

[easter]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

the chance to earn our salvation."


What does this statement mean to you?
How do you understand it?
What are some of the implications of this statement?
Do you agree with those implications?

We live in the Church AGE and the one's who have SALVATION,it is through the GRACE of GOD.No one can earn their SALVATION.The people who are still living under the LAW,well they are trying to earn their SALVATION and if this were possible then there would have been no need of the cross,RIGHT?
By the Grace of God were you SAVED!

[Sam]

Originally Posted by easter

We live in the Church AGE and the one's who have SALVATION,it is through the GRACE of GOD.No one can earn their SALVATION.The people who are still living under the LAW,well they are trying to earn their SALVATION and if this were possible then there would have been no need of the cross,RIGHT?
By the Grace of God were you SAVED!

As someone said:
"Salvation is a gift to receive
not a goal to achieve."

[Falla39]

Obedient Faith will get you saved!
Obey the Word of God.

Some say you don't have to do anything, just believe.

Rom.10:9-13
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

They stop short of the next verses:

14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Simple obedience to God's Word.

[easter]

Originally Posted by Falla39

Obedient Faith will get you saved!
Obey the Word of God.

Some say you don't have to do anything, just believe.

Rom.10:9-13
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

They stop short of the next verses:

14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Simple obedience to God's Word.

I agree with you Falla 39 A person has got to have Faith.However a lost person is not going to be obedient to the word of God.By Grace were you SAVED,not because of obedience.There again is someone trying to live under the law.Salvation don't work this way.BY THE GRACE OF GOD IS A PERSON SAVED.Not of their own doings,but the will of the FATHER.

[Scott Hutchinson]

I believe it is God's will for all people to repent,be baptized in Jesus Name and be Spirit Filled,but salvation is not earned it is a gift if salvation is merited it is not a gift.

While the grace of God teaches us to behave in a responsible manner,one cannot earn salvation.
Our works are a result of salvation.

[easter]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

I believe it is God's will for all people to repent,be baptized in Jesus Name and be Spirit Filled,but salvation is not earned it is a gift if salvation is merited it is not a gift.

While the grace of God teaches us to behave in a responsible manner,one cannot earn salvation.
Our works are a result of salvation.

That's Right Brother Scott! But the Grace of God is why you have SALVATION!