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The Next General Superintendant of the UPC Will Be
Who?
Who do you believe will run and who will win?
The obvious canidates are;
Paul Mooney
David Bernard
Anthony Mangun
and of course Jerry Jones although I don't think he would get it.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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Re: The Next General Superintendant of the UPC Wil
I don't think anyone wants it more than JJ and PM. And out of respect - correct the spelling of "Barnard."
After several contested ballots, I think the Conference in 2012 will choose ... Marilyn Gazowsky!
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07-23-2009, 10:17 PM
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Re: The Next General Superintendant of the UPC Wil
AM, or maybe DB ... but I doubt PM would be.
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07-23-2009, 10:19 PM
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Re: The Next General Superintendant of the UPC Wil
When is the next election?
Maybe we could do the Catholic thing where an archbishop HAS to retire when he turns 75.
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07-23-2009, 10:45 PM
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Re: The Next General Superintendant of the UPC Wil
Personally, I would like to see Bro. Mooney as GS. I like his vision and passion, as well as his down to earth personality.
Not many big name preachers would be humble enough to refer to themselves as a "slob". Bro. Mooney seems to preach as who He is, not some alter ego.
In Texas campmeeting a few years ago, as He was preaching, there was a young boy there (maybe 7-8 years old), He gave Him a $5 dollar bill for "having to listen to me preach." So many preachers act like we should roll out the red carpet, get the limos, and reserved parking spaces ready, because they are coming to town. I don't and haven't seen that with Bro. Mooney. And in addition to his humility, He does have great vision. Again, I would personally love to see Him as GS. And I'm not even UPC. 
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Re: The Next General Superintendant of the UPC Wil
I see AM and DB as the better choices. Both are humble, well balanced and articulate spokesmen.
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Re: The Next General Superintendant of the UPC Wil
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I see AM and DB as the better choices. Both are humble, well balanced and articulate spokesmen.
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AM well balanced? Humble? I don't know? When I was a young saint he was my favorite preacher.
I have since cooled to him, since everytime I hear him, as soon as he grabs a mic he starts screaming. I'm not against passionate preaching (obviously, or i would have remained a baptist), but I am worn out by such methods. Furthermore, I heard him say (at GC, I forget what year, 2001? 2002?) something along the lines of "when I say now, I want everyone in this building to speak in tounges........Now! and He goes to speaking in tounges (you hear the crowd noise speaking in tongues, He breaks in in english as says, "thats it, everyone speak in toungues, right now! right now!"
To me AM is the complete opposite of PM. Though he probably has a better chance to get it, my opinion is that that kind of thing is what's wrong with pentecost nowdays. To much showmanship, to much style, too little substance.
I like DB's intelectual stuff, but haven't ever heard Him preach, I've read several of his books,but he doesn't strike me as a "leader", just a good administrator.
Just my two cents.
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Re: The Next General Superintendant of the UPC Wil
If PM were to become the GS, I wonder how it would shift things since he leans kind of to the right if I understand correctly?
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Re: The Next General Superintendant of the UPC Wil
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AM well balanced? Humble? I don't know? When I was a young saint he was my favorite preacher.
I have since cooled to him, since everytime I hear him, as soon as he grabs a mic he starts screaming. I'm not against passionate preaching (obviously, or i would have remained a baptist), but I am worn out by such methods. Furthermore, I heard him say (at GC, I forget what year, 2001? 2002?) something along the lines of "when I say now, I want everyone in this building to speak in tounges........Now! and He goes to speaking in tounges (you hear the crowd noise speaking in tongues, He breaks in in english as says, "thats it, everyone speak in toungues, right now! right now!"
To me AM is the complete opposite of PM. Though he probably has a better chance to get it, my opinion is that that kind of thing is what's wrong with pentecost nowdays. To much showmanship, to much style, too little substance.
I like DB's intelectual stuff, but haven't ever heard Him preach, I've read several of his books,but he doesn't strike me as a "leader", just a good administrator.
Just my two cents.
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I have observed the same (without participation) and was appalled. And screaming... I don't get it when that happens.
I have only heard AM a few times. I was not really taking into account preaching style - though I guess one should.
Brings to mind another point... Must one be a "good preacher" to lead well. Certainly they need great oratory skills - but beyond that I am not sure if he needs to be a wonderful preacher.
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Re: The Next General Superintendant of the UPC Wil
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Brings to mind another point... Must one be a "good preacher" to lead well. Certainly they need great oratory skills - but beyond that I am not sure if he needs to be a wonderful preacher.
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Not sure excellent preaching is necessary ,although it is a side benefit. If you're GS, you Are a leader and imo this Is administration.
I've seen schools take excellent teachers and promote them to principals.
Good teachers are rare and much needed. The skill needed is administration.
But perhaps the brighter teachers are the only ones with either skill.
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