Jesus is a family name.

[Joelel]

Jesus didn't come in his own name.Jesus Said In 1 John 5 ;43. I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.( Here we find Jesus came in his Fathers name ,So his Father's name is Jesus ? )

The Father sent the Holy Ghost in his Son's name.John 14:26. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, .( Here we find The Father Sent the Holy Ghost In Jesus name,So the Holy Ghost name Is Jesus.)

Eph.3:014 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 003:015 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, ( Here we find the whole family is named after the Father.( So Jesus Is A family name and is the name of the Father Son And Holy Ghost.)

Who did the Son inherit his name from?You don't inherit something from yourself.Heb.1:004 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. ( We find here Jesus Inherited his name from the Father. What name does a Son Inherit? The family name.)

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Joelel

Jesus didn't come in his own name.Jesus Said In 1 John 5 ;43. I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.( Here we find Jesus came in his Fathers name ,So his Father's name is Jesus ? )

The Father sent the Holy Ghost in his Son's name.John 14:26. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, .( Here we find The Father Sent the Holy Ghost In Jesus name,So the Holy Ghost name Is Jesus.)

Eph.3:014 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 003:015 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, ( Here we find the whole family is named after the Father.( So Jesus Is A family name and is the name of the Father Son And Holy Ghost.)

Who did the Son inherit his name from?You don't inherit something from yourself.Heb.1:004 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. ( We find here Jesus Inherited his name from the Father. What name does a Son Inherit? The family name.)

He came in His Father's authority, what you make these scriptures say is certainly not the purpose of those scriptures.

A policeman comes in the name of the city, state or nation, or in their authority, not in His own authority or name.

You do violence to the Word of God. Jesus was saying that He had come from the Father, and was speaking as authorized by the Father. He clearly said that He only spoke what He heard from the Father, and only did what He saw the Father do.

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by crakjak

He came in His Father's authority, what you make these scriptures say is certainly not the purpose of those scriptures.

A policeman comes in the name of the city, state or nation, or in their authority, not in His own authority or name.

You do violence to the Word of God. Jesus was saying that He had come from the Father, and was speaking as authorized by the Father. He clearly said that He only spoke what He heard from the Father, and only did what He saw the Father do.

So you think the Father,Son and Holy Ghost name is athority and not Jesus ?

[Joelel]

I have one question ? God is Spirit,did the Spirit of God die when Jesus died ?

[rrford]

Originally Posted by Joelel

I have one question ? God is Spirit,did the Spirit of God die when Jesus died ?

Will your spirit die when you die?

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by rrford

Will your spirit die when you die?

If I'm not saved yes my spirit will die in the lake of fire,if i'm saved no it will not die.The thing is people say Jesus was the father instead of the son.If Jesus was the Spirit of the father then that means God's Spirit died.My bible teaches me that only the word of God was made flesh and the Spirit of God dwelt IN the flesh,so when Jesus died only the word of God or the Son died not the Father or the Spirit.

[Michael The Disciple]

As I recall nearly all Apostolics taught that Jesus was the family name and that he came in his Fathers name till fairly recent times. With the coming of the sacred name movement they seem to now be modifying their teaching some.

They used to teach the name was actually someones (Jesus) name as in opposition to title against the Trins. Now some of them are feeling the pressure of the sacred name teachers to use and baptize in the original name. Sacred namers say since the Fathers name was YAH then Jesus name must contain it in either Yahshua or Yeshuah.

So against the SN teachers you now hear them talking things like the name is speaking of the authority. Thats the same argument my former Trinitarian Pastor made against Oneness doctrine.

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

As I recall nearly all Apostolics taught that Jesus was the family name and that he came in his Fathers name till fairly recent times. With the coming of the sacred name movement they seem to now be modifying their teaching some.

They used to teach the name was actually someones (Jesus) name as in opposition to title against the Trins. Now some of them are feeling the pressure of the sacred name teachers to use and baptize in the original name. Sacred namers say since the Fathers name was YAH then Jesus name must contain it in either Yahshua or Yeshuah.

So against the SN teachers you now hear them talking things like the name is speaking of the authority. Thats the same argument my former Trinitarian Pastor made against Oneness doctrine.

The thing I wonder is,these people who think they do things in the authority.How do they know who's authority they are in if they never recognize the name of who gives authorty.They could be in the authorty of Satan and not know the differance. Also who ever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.How does a person call on authorty ? I ask Chan this and he woun't answer.All he said is I was deceived and said it was witchcraft to call on the name Jesus 2424. Iesous ee-ay-sooce' of Hebrew origin (3091); Jesus (i.e. Jehoshua), the name of our Lord and two (three) other Israelites:--Jesus.3091 Yhowshuwa` yeh-ho-shoo'-ah or Yhowshua {yeh-ho-shoo'-ah}; from 3068 and 3467; Jehovah-saved; Jehoshua (i.e. Joshua), the Jewish leader:--Jehoshua, Jehoshuah, Joshua. Compare 1954, 3442.