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Old 05-08-2009, 10:11 PM
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Question Boy will be suspended if he goes to prom.

There is a big controversy going on here in our area. The story is that a young man goes to a school called Heritage Christian School in Findlay. His girlfriend goes to Findlay High School (public school). The Christian school has a policy not allowing their students to partake of dancing or rock music. However, this young man is planning to take his girlfriend to the prom at Findlay High School.

His stand, which his parents support, is that while he is at the school he abides by their rules. But he does not feel that the school should have control over what he does in his personal life.

The Christian school is saying that if he attends the prom he will be expelled from school and will not be able to participate in the graduation ceremonies for his class at the end of the month. He will receive his diploma, but he will not be allowed to be a part of the ceremonies.

What do you think? Should he have to abide by the school rules 24/7?
What about if he goes to a wedding reception where they are playing rock music and dancing? Should he be expelled just because he is there? How much authority should the school really have over a student's personal life?
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Old 05-08-2009, 10:22 PM
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Re: Boy will be suspended if he goes to prom.

Well, it's the school's right to make the rules, but I don't think the rules are appropriate. I would choose not to send my child to a school like that.
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Old 05-08-2009, 10:32 PM
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Re: Boy will be suspended if he goes to prom.

If the student and the parents knew the rules when they enrolled the boy in the school then they need to abide by those rules. The school is right in enforcing the rules.

I taught in Christian schools for 15 years. I'm a firm believer in enforcing rules. If they aren't going to be enforced don't make them.
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Old 05-08-2009, 10:33 PM
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Re: Boy will be suspended if he goes to prom.

I feel the school is out of line. They have the right to dictate policy for students while on campus and for school related functions. However, I don't think a school should be able to set policy for students when they are on their " own" time.

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Old 05-08-2009, 10:37 PM
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There is a big controversy going on here in our area. The story is that a young man goes to a school called Heritage Christian School in Findlay. His girlfriend goes to Findlay High School (public school). The Christian school has a policy not allowing their students to partake of dancing or rock music. However, this young man is planning to take his girlfriend to the prom at Findlay High School.

His stand, which his parents support, is that while he is at the school he abides by their rules. But he does not feel that the school should have control over what he does in his personal life.

The Christian school is saying that if he attends the prom he will be expelled from school and will not be able to participate in the graduation ceremonies for his class at the end of the month. He will receive his diploma, but he will not be allowed to be a part of the ceremonies.

What do you think? Should he have to abide by the school rules 24/7?
What about if he goes to a wedding reception where they are playing rock music and dancing? Should he be expelled just because he is there? How much authority should the school really have over a student's personal life?
Not unusual for christian school to have them rules. I'm sure the rule was in the student conduct manuel.
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Old 05-08-2009, 11:43 PM
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There is a big controversy going on here in our area. The story is that a young man goes to a school called Heritage Christian School in Findlay. His girlfriend goes to Findlay High School (public school). The Christian school has a policy not allowing their students to partake of dancing or rock music. However, this young man is planning to take his girlfriend to the prom at Findlay High School.

His stand, which his parents support, is that while he is at the school he abides by their rules. But he does not feel that the school should have control over what he does in his personal life.

The Christian school is saying that if he attends the prom he will be expelled from school and will not be able to participate in the graduation ceremonies for his class at the end of the month. He will receive his diploma, but he will not be allowed to be a part of the ceremonies.

What do you think? Should he have to abide by the school rules 24/7?
What about if he goes to a wedding reception where they are playing rock music and dancing? Should he be expelled just because he is there? How much authority should the school really have over a student's personal life?
Out of line or not, it would be helpful to learn the actual wording of the rule, as well as situations it would be enforced in. Would a student be expelled merely for listening to rock-ish type music on the radio?

It does seem like overstepping of bounds, but if the parents and the student knew about this rule ahead of time, and knew that these were the types of battles the school wanted to fight, I can't see how there is much they can do about it.
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Re: Boy will be suspended if he goes to prom.

This thread reminded me of something I read the other day:

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Mark Levin is correct in saying that this passion for equality is driven by the statist’s deep sense of inferiority. For the passion for equality is, at its core, a passion for anonymity. When the fabric of society is woven together in such a way that one thread cannot be distinguished from another, no judgment is possible. That is why the economic Marxist prefers a guaranteed average outcome. And it is why the cultural Marxist is receptive to the religion of moral relativism. - as quoted by Mike Adams from Mark Levin's book, Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto.
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What a country we had when morals were not questioned as rule of law, it was our way of life....when Harvard would expel a man for not abiding by the rules thus making himself of bad character....a reflection on the school itself.....expelled.
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Re: Boy will be suspended if he goes to prom.

The school has every right to make rules for its students, and the students have the right to choose whether they attend, with full knowledge of the rules when they make the decision.

Personally, I think since it is a Christian school, and they presumably want their students to represent them well, it is perfectly acceptable to dictate their students' overall lifestyle and character.

What if one of their rules were "No taking drugs, even outside of school hours"? Would anyone be complaining about that? The principle is still the same. The student agreed to the rules when he enrolled. If he chooses to break the rules, he deserves expulsion.

Whether the rule is reasonable is irrelevant.
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Re: Boy will be suspended if he goes to prom.

The school is right to expect certain conduct from it's students outside of the school.

I can only assume that this student and his parents new this when they enrolled their child.

It seems the student has a choice to make. Is this girl and this prom/dance are more important to him than being able to attend his graduatin ceremony with his class.

He will receive his diploma either way, just not be able to receive it publicly, if he chooses to attend this prom.


What to do....what to do ???
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Re: Boy will be suspended if he goes to prom.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090508/...ool_dance_flap

I gotta say I admire the school. It's really not up to us to decide what their policies should be.
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