Revelations chatper 1v2

KWSS1976 · #1 04-22-2009, 08:20 AM

2Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

Ok can someone explain the "and of" in this cause the way it is worded sounds like (2)

gloryseeker · #2 04-22-2009, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

2Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

Ok can someone explain the "and of" in this cause the way it is worded sounds like (2)

Go back and read the gospel of John 1 - the Word that was from the beginning (v1) "became" flesh and dwelt among us (v14).

KWSS1976 · #3 04-22-2009, 10:07 AM

but explain the "and of" I have read those scriptures already and the 'and of' contirdicts this in revelations...

KWSS1976 · #4 04-22-2009, 10:29 AM

and also in v14 you have....(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,)

Ferd · #5 04-22-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

2Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

Ok can someone explain the "and of" in this cause the way it is worded sounds like (2)

silly question. the word of God and Jesus Christ arent exactly the same thing.

John made testamony of the Word of God and of Jesus Christ.

The Word of God = all that God spoke to John/the words written in scripture.
Jesus Christ =The Word Made Flesh/God Manifest in Flesh/The Redeemer/The Massiah (sp) etc...

If God spoke to John about the future and if John also speaks about the Man Christ Jesus whom he knew and lived with, are those the same things?

of course John was speaking about two things. That doesnt mean John was speaking about 2 gods or 2 hypostasis (sp) that make up part of one god (what ever that means)

Your quesiton is kind of odd....

KWSS1976 · #6 04-22-2009, 11:17 AM

Leave it to me I can ask some odd questions I question everything especially if it contirdicts (sp) somthing else I just read..LOL

Praxeas · #7 04-22-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

2Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

Ok can someone explain the "and of" in this cause the way it is worded sounds like (2)

huh?

And is a conjunction, it connects a thought. Who is John. What did HE do? He bore record. Of what? The word of God, the testimony of Jesus and of all the things John saw

Praxeas · #8 04-22-2009, 01:04 PM

There is no contradiction. He bore witness to the word of God (not the Logos made flesh), the testimony of Jesus and to the things he SAW

Joh 21:25 And there are also many things, whatever Jesus did, which, if they should be written singly, I suppose the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. Amen.

They SAW what Jesus did. They were witnesses to the miracles

KWSS1976 · #9 04-22-2009, 01:06 PM

No prax you left out the "and of" on your reply so I added it for ya......

huh?

And is a conjunction, it connects a thought. Who is John. What did HE do? He bore record. Of what? The word of God "AND OF", the testimony of Jesus and of all the things John saw

Praxeas · #10 04-22-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

No prax you left out the "and of" on your reply so I added it for ya......

huh?

And is a conjunction, it connects a thought. Who is John. What did HE do? He bore record. Of what? The word of God "AND OF", the testimony of Jesus and of all the things John saw

No I did not "leave it out" I explained it.

When you have a list you separate them with commas except for the last thing in the list you use a conjuction. It's simple grammar.

John bore witness of what? the word of God, testimony of Jesus and the things John saw with his eyes